OTC: Pinkel Puts Mizzou In Middle Of Paterno Mess / Sanchez, Gone!

“Joe Paterno’s a friend that I got to know professionally, and you can’t take away the greatness of this man. He was a great man. However you analyze this, you can’t erase all that this guy’s done. You can’t do that. Nobody can do that. I think when you come out of such a tragic situation, certainly involving children and the magnitude of this in our country from a media standpoint, I anticipated really what happened. I anticipated that they would do this. You’re not going to sit back there and say, ‘Well, just things happen.’ You’re not going to do that. They’re going to be firing, and people, they’re going to make statements and they’re going to point fingers, and that’s what I anticipated a little bit. But he was a great man, a good man. I’m sure he would, maybe if he could do it over again he would have followed up a few things. But don’t take away all this guy did, and to sit there and blame him for all this, I think is wrong.”
Gary Pinkel, SEC Media Days
GH: Gary Pinkel just did every football coach, AD, SID and university a huge favor on the opening day of the SEC football media days. He showed them all how not to respond to a question about Paterno – and how out-of-touch it sounds to defend the man who was once revered by college football. You can bet Pinkel’s words will be used against him in recruits’ kitchens across the SEC and beyond.

“I know I’m the voice of Missouri on this station. As a Missouri fan, I was very disappointed in Pinkel’s comments.”
Steven St. John, 810 AM
GH: Many college football coaches are not well read, not in tune with the world the rest of us live in and clueless when it comes to discussing anything outside of football. St. John, Jake Gutiérrez and Aaron Swarts attempted to give Pinkel the benefit of the doubt, saying he must not have read or be aware of the Freeh Report. If so, shame on Pinkel. Every high school and college coach should read every word of that report. Every AD should make sure this happens. There are no excuses for what happened at Penn State nor are there excuses for coaches who do not know. Pinkel looks bad here. Real bad.

“You simply can’t make comments like that – even if you believe it! He’s not on a good run right now in Columbia. I’m just baffled by some of the comments by Pinkel. Is it just that you think you’re the king of football?”
Soren Petro, on Pinkel, 810 AM

“Pinkel’s ignorant, right-is-wrong puke confirms what happened at PSU could happen on his watch too.”
Brooks Melchior, SportsbyBrooks, Twitter
GH: Pinkel is being obliterated by the media over his comments – and deservedly so. Pinkel points to the media as the main problem at Penn State, when the exact opposite is true. It is the media who tirelessly worked to expose what college football refused to uncover.

“This might be the most controversial thing I’ve ever said on this radio station. I think this happens everywhere. I think this this happens at Kansas, at Missouri…”
Kevin Kietzman, on the cover-up executed at Penn State to hide Jerry Sandusky’s crimes, 810 AM
GH: When you read Pinkel’s comments above, it is very hard to argue against KK’s comment. We must all be vigilant and refuse to treat mere men like gods.

“T.J. Moe has taken over SEC Media Day. He’s now the story of Day 1. T.J. Moe got a standing ovation at SEC Media Days. I’m just sayin.”
Matt Hayes, @Matt_HayesSN, Twitter
GH: If Pinkel could have avoided sounding like a Neanderthal, Mizzou would have come away from the SEC media days looking fantastic – thanks to their senior wide-out from Fort Zumwalt West. Read on for some of Moe’s more memorable quotes to the SEC media.

“They say girls are prettier here, air’s fresher and the toilet paper is thicker.”
T.J. Moe, SEC Media Days
GH: I’m just glad it’s not that the girls are thicker and the toilet paper’s prettier.

“Everybody wears a tie or sundress to games. Look at me. I wore a Dry-fit polo to Big 12 media day last year.”
T.J. Moe, SEC Media Days
GH: I can’t imagine that Mizzou fans are going to start showing up at Faurot wearing suits and ties and dressed like they are heading to the prom. But this is exactly how the SEC crowd dresses. MU’s trip to Ole Miss a few years back was proof that the SEC treats there football like church.

“Anyone ever had a standing ovation after a media day press conference? I just did.”
T.J. Moe, Twitter

”[Sanchez is] a solid No. 3 starter on a championship-type club.”
Dayton Moore, after dealing Melky Cabrera for Jonathan Sanchez in the off-season, Kansas City Star
GH: Curtis Kitchen of CurtisKitchenKC pulled some old quotes from when the Royals acquired Sanchez that offer little solace but some humor after he was DFA’ed on Tuesday. Read on.

“He’s thrown a no-hitter in the major leagues. When you look at this guy’s strikeout rates, his swing-and-miss ability, it’s among the very best in the game. That’s something for us to build on. We are excited to make him part of our rotation.”
Dayton Moore, Kansas City Star

“As of this morning, there are eight teams — EIGHT — within two games of each other in AL wildcard race.”
Buster Olney, @Buster_ESPN, ESPN MLB columnist, Twitter
GH: The Royals are not one of those eight. Our boys in blue have instead crawled back into their annual July coffin to sleep away the rest of our summer. What a lost, lost franchise our Royals have been, are and look to continue to be.

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52 Responses to OTC: Pinkel Puts Mizzou In Middle Of Paterno Mess / Sanchez, Gone!

  1. Marge says:

    Pinkel is an idiot. Just saying “no comment” would have been fine.

    • Greg Hall says:

      Mizzou’s AD and SID offices need to shoulder some of the blame here. They should have briefed Pinkel on how to handle these questions. Spurrier obviously was either coached or a lot brighter than Pinkel. Now, if MU did talk to Pinkel about Paterno and the possible questions he might face and he still flubbed the responses so awkwardly, the Tigers have a problem and his name is Gary Pinkel.

      • Smartman says:

        NO! All the blame falls on Gary NAMBLA Pinkel’s shoulders! Not the AD, SID or The Antlers. He’s an IDIOT. Way to introduce yourself to the SEC Gary. They may do some inbreeding, cross breeding, sister and cute first cousin chasin’ but I don’t think they condone the molestation of little boys under any circumstances. JAGOFF!

        • Larry Mondello says:

          With all of the crude and immature posts that you throw out here I would say that you have no room to talk. You are the jagoff….along with Pinkel.

          • Smartman says:

            Given the fact that we all get to choose our online names and you have chosen the name of the BIGGEST PUTZ in television history says a lot about you Larry.

  2. JP says:

    KU fan here, saying I hope this doesn’t turn into an MU/KU bash thread. However, I am stunned by Pinkel’s remarks about Paterno. It was all over the news on Thursday. Paterno is not someone any coach should be praising right now. Likely, Pinkel is taking bullets for other ignorant coaches who might have stated similar sentiments, but now will stay quiet or plead the 5th. Steve Spurrier had a great answer, that was more appropriate.

    As for KK’s comments, I have to agree. If anyone thinks this type of scandal can ONLY happen at Penn State, they are ignorant. Look at some of the big time coaches like Bobby Petrino for example. There are others that we all know where if this situation occurred, a cover up could have occurred. Maybe not 14 years later, but how many colleges are out there where the football coach is the highest paid employee.

  3. Jim says:

    If you are talking about covering up speeding tickets, MIP’s, bad grades, minor assaults, etc……I’m quite sure that is S.O.P. in big time college athletics. If you are talking about covering up the ass-rape of a child and turning a blind eye to a pedophile in the midst of your football program……you are out of your freaking mind. To say “it happens everywhere” is a ridiculous statement. It’s college football, not the Catholic church.

  4. Gavin says:

    Why is it so hard to say “Joe Paterno was a great football coach. Obviously, his on-field record speaks for itself. When it comes to all the recent issues at Penn State, I can’t speak to them and have no comment.’?

    It’s not like Pinkel could be misunderstood on this point. This wasn’t some inept statement regarding the man’s abilities as a coach of a football team. He was clearly doubling down on claiming the “greatness” of Joe Paterno, the human being.

    I’m fully expecting a “clarification” from Pinkel this week.

    • AaronB4Mizzou says:

      Gavin…Pinkel clearly hadn’t read or kept up much on the story. I understand, in that he has a lot of time constraints as it is, but with that being the case, he simply should have stated no comment, or left it at the “Paterno was a great FB coach…but I don’t know enough about the other issues to speak on it at this time.” End of story had he said something more along those lines. It’s a shame he made the comments that he made. I fully expect something to come out fairly soon along the lines of,”…now that I’ve read the report, I can say for a fact that there is no way we would cover up a crime of that significance at Mizzou, and that I’m very troubled with how Paterno handled it.”

    • Cliffy says:

      There’s no defending Pinkel here. I think he probably doesn’t fully understand what Paterno did, but that’s no excuse.

      I also strongly suspect the PR people at MU tried to get him to issue a clarification but Pinkel is stubborn. He’s not the brightest guy in the world, either.

  5. Orphan of the Road says:

    Pinkel had Steve Spurrier keeping him company on Paterno.

    Life Economics 101 teaches us one Oh Shit cancels a million Atta Boys. What festered and erupted in Happy Valley is (hopefully) a one-off story. But the attitude and sense of entitlement which let this occur festers in every college football and basketball program wanting to be #1.

    Paterno was the straw which stirred the drink. His enablers were, and are, legions.

    Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what sting is justice.
    H. L. Mencken

  6. Uncle Dick says:

    Pinkel was just distracted during the press conference, as he was late to a moonshine making seminar where he was the guest taste tester. It is not uncommon for fans at MU to dress up. They want to look good for their arraignment on Monday morning.

  7. Gavin says:

    Oh, and as for Kietzman’s comments about “this happen[ing] everywhere,” I’d like to know what the hell he’s talking about. If he’s saying that all big-time sports programs pull strings to cover up minor violations of the law and that athletic departments carry a lot of juice and don’t hesitate to use it, then, yes, I’m sure that’s true.

    But if he’s saying that athletic departments of all big-time sports programs would use that influence to cover up serial felonies, especially violent crime like child rape, then I’d like to hear a little more from him on the subject. No one liked yelling at Norm Stewart more than me, but I do not have a single doubt that the man’s integrity would force him to disclose any serious crime committed by a member of his staff, let alone what he would do if he was presented with evidence that such crimes had been going on for decades. Same thing for Bill Snyder. It’s a well-known fact that Nick Saban has been on at least three different multi-state murder sprees, but I think he is definitely the exception and not the rule.

    • JP says:

      Having looked at KK’s comments, I would disagree that this would happen everywhere. My point is that it could happen at a lot of institutions where the big time sports program becomes the de facto image of the school. Remember why the cover up happened at Penn State: they didn’t want negative publicity on the school and to tarnish Joe Paterno’s reputation. Let’s be real, there are a number of college programs where that type of thinking persists even to this day.

      • Gavin says:

        That’s a reasonable point. When will people learn that the public at large will forgive a lot of sins but never a cover-up?

    • Steve says:

      People would have said the same thing about Joe Paterno a year ago or whenever the story broke. Please do not forget that you do not know these people aside from seeing their faces on the sideline and hearing mostly canned answers at press conferences.

    • One Who Knows says:

      What does the Alabama football coach have to do with this topic?

  8. john doe says:

    pinkel stole charlie weis’ thunder

    • Gavin says:

      Finally Mizzou is ahead of KU in something. Defending dudes who shield child molesters.

      MIZ-ZOU! We’re number one! We beat KU! We beat KU!!

      • john doe says:

        he was just defending his friend, that’s all

        still not a smart thing to do, at least with a microphone in your face.

        • Gavin says:

          I understand that. But even giving Pinkel the benefit of the doubt, he was trying to defend something that was indefensible done by a man whose current image is completely 100% toxic to anyone not blessed/cursed with the surname “Paterno.”

          • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

            Yes, and according to Bill James (native Kansan) showering with young boys was common back when he grew up.

  9. rkcal says:

    Pinkel’s comment is just further evidence of how out-of-touch and insulated big-time college football culture is. The answer is obvious; big-money sports entertainment has no business being entwined with higher education. No other country does this. As George Will said over the weekend, “It is inherently against the purpose of universities and inherently corrupting.” It enriches a small group of administrators and coaches and serves as farm system for professional football and basketball. The moral failings of Penn State are repeated (one hopes to a much lesser degree) on campuses across the country every day. The truth is that there isn’t the true moral courage to do what really should be done: the separation of entertainment sports from higher education.

    • One Who Knows says:

      In many ways I agree, but college sports wasn’t this out of touch in the 1960s and prior. Something has happened in college sports that breeds arrogance and teaches our youth that what you say doesn’t have to match what you do. I find my school out of touch with reality in too many areas.

      1- Our school funds the return of tigers to the wild in foreign countries, where they eat, yes kill, locals who then blame “#$% dam Americans” for causing their relatives death.
      2-Mizzou is building a campus in China while trying to fund part of it by increasing tuition here in America at a time when so many are hurting financially.
      3-The chancellor touted the SEC move as joining their “proud academic tradition”. Who is he kidding?
      4-The university claims highly skilled technical and business instructors and highly qualified grad students, yet out-sources functions to contractors and media centers to the tune of megabucks.
      5-The alumni organization refuses to answer serious questions and allegations of wrong-doing and has been taken over by the so called “professional staff” the school provides.
      6-The journalism school lacks proper ethical training for students. The grads don’t understand American core principles and values.

      And these are just a few items.

      Our tax dollars are not being used efficiently or properly at Mizzou.

  10. BS says:

    It is called hubris*. Most college football coaches have a great deal of that quality and Pinkel is in that group. Don’t think he is any worse than 75% of college football coaches. He believes his opinion is more valuable than others, and that grows when there are a roomful of people around asking for his opinion.

    *extreme pride /arrogance; indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one’s own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power.

  11. Smartman says:

    When you look at the totality of a college football coaches responsibilities and obligations to God, country, school, state, alumni, staff, players, players families, fans, etc Joe Paterno FAILED. He makes Turner Gill look like Vince Lombardi. That the Paterno family is conducting their own investigation to try and discredit Louis Freeh proves that Joe wasn’t the only fucked up person in the family.

    Gary “hic” Pinkel’s comments yesterday put him in the same queue line of ignorant fucks with JoPa right behind Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and ahead of Marge Schott. FUCKING IDIOT.

    • stupidman says:

      Just trying to connect the dots here:

      - pedophilia victims and molestors tend to have emotional/mental disorders – Smartman is obviously demented
      - Some Catholic priests molest little boys – Smartman is Catholic
      - Emotionally invested in this subject matter – Smartman appears to be extremely invested in this beyond the norm

      So, I’m guessing that either Smartman was molested as a youngster, had a family member who was, or is a molester trying to throw off suspicion (before everyone gets out the pitchforks, I am mostly kidding about the 3rd part – but, you never know – I also wouldn’t wish any part of that statement on anyone no matter how delusional they are on a message board).

      It sure would explain a lot of the drivel that comes out of his keyboard.

      The fact Smartman is mentally imbalanced is not really in question since that is obvious.

      • Cliffy says:

        I think smartman and harley/jojo are the same person.

        • Smartman says:

          OUCH! That REALLY hurt Cliffy. It’s nice to know that Harley has assumed another monicker that is pretty damn accurate. Hey Harley, Wilson and I still have THIRTY GRAND on the table if you can pass two lie detector tests proving that you have never masturbated.

          • Cliffy says:

            paulawilson “the shrieker”? The amount of time he’s spent trying to shout harley down is pretty embarrassing. You two make a pretty good pair.

  12. Babe Ruthless says:

    Covering up for a child molester takes your football coaching records out of the equation. You are no longer considered a great coach, a good human being, a father figure or Catholic. You’re a schmuck, end of discussion.

  13. Johnny Utah says:

    This might have been a rare instance when a football coach wasn’t lying.

  14. Bob Sacamano says:

    Maybe Pinkell is Catholic and making excuses for perverts who cover up the sexual abuse of young boys is just something that he has been conditioned to accept as par for the course.

    • Stringer Pete says:

      OK, I’m getting a little tired of the Catholic-bashing. Not funny.

      • Steve says:

        Now you know how the Penn State alums feel, except that the Cathlolics have allowed it to go on longer.

        • Stringer Pete says:

          Bigotry badly becomes you. (Cathlolics?)

          • Larry Mondello says:

            Baptists, Protestants, Jews, Atheists, Muslims, teachers, coaches, boy scout leaders, day care providers, uncles, dads, neighbors, doctors, etc. etc. etc. Child molestation is a sickening crime and permeates all of society. To lump any one group over another as the guiltiest of parties is flat out wrong and ignorant. To cover up molestation is equal in horrible behavior.

          • Smartman says:

            I’m a Catholic and I thinks it is OK to put us at the head of the pack when it comes to blowing, no pun intended, moral authority. When a religious organization touts itself as the one and only way to get into heaven you need to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. NEVER in the history of mankind has their been a BIGGER INSTITUTIONAL FAILURE than the Catholic Church’s when it comes to dealing with pedophile priests.

  15. Just wondering says:

    There was a football coach in Texas a few years ago who covered up a murder, I believe. Elvis Presley brought a 14 year old girl home from Germany to live with him after he got out of the Army. Do people still say he was a pretty good singer?Mohammad had a six-year-old wife, or some such thing. Do some peole still praise his name? Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. Do people still say he played a a mean piano? Woody Allen married his adopted daughter. Are all of his movies now considered trash? Robert E. Lee fought on the side of the Confederacy. Should he no longer be considered a great general? Even Michael Jackson is still acknowledged for his musical talents. Is it still possible to say that O.J. Simpson was one of the greatest running backs of all time?

    Joe Paterno is now being placed in Hitler-esque company for his transgression. Does anyone really believe that Gary Pinkel thinks child-molesting is no big deal? (Well except for all KU and K-State and some Missouri fans). Should it be impossible to say one good or kind thing about Joe Paterno without getting labeled a proponent of child molesting?

    Is it ever possible to do the wrong thing, and still be acknowledged for doing some good things in your life?

    • Steve says:

      “Does anyone really believe that Gary Pinkel thinks child-molesting is no big deal?”

      No but it can fan the flames of the usual tired KU vs MU arguments from people who mostly didn’t even attend those schools.

    • Merle Tagladucci says:

      Elvis loved, I mean LOVED young girls. We’re talking stone-cold-addicted to 14 and 15-year old girls, yet back then not only because of his fame but also because of the times, it wasn’t nearly that big of a deal. He dated many, many underage girls, often set up by friends or members of his entourage, and usually these girls parents went right along with it. You bring up that 14-year old girl he brought back from Germany, but you left out that it was Priscilla, later his wife, and that her mother ENCOURAGED her to see him when they first met. Imagine that happening in 2012. People would be camped outside their house screaming and protesting like they were at Casey Anthony’s. Different times, different society. Supposedly well into the mid-1970s, after he and Priscilla had split up, after he’d had affairs with Ann-Margret and numerous others, he still had a thing for young girls. Yet not once did he ever get arrested for it, destroyed in the press for it or raked over the coals for it. He was fn Elvis! Aye, it’s good to be da King!

    • Gavin says:

      Just Wondering, of course it’s possible to do the wrong hings and still be acknowledge for doing some good things in your life. But that’s not what Pinkel was doing. He proclaimed Paterno’s “greatness” at least three times. Did Paterno did some great things? Yes, I’ll concede that. But he lost any privilege and pretension to “greatness” once he made the conscious decision to do this horrible thing because it might wreck his kingdom.

      I don’t care how many games or championships Paterno won, THIS is his legacy. Those boys he chose not to protect instead of his friend, those boys who were raped by a sick and scheming many cancel out all of his championships and all his monetary donations to the Penn State library. Paterno is not great football coached who cosseted a child molester. He’s a cosseter who just so happened to win a lot of football games.

  16. Steve says:

    Did anyone ask Gary Pinkel if he had even read the Freeh report? He should be busy enough with the season getting ready to start in a couple of weeks that he may have not even looked at it.

    I do agree though that someone from the university should have prepped him with an answer for any question about Paterno. I, for one, am ready to move on from the Paterno/Penn State story, however they had to know that some reporter looking to create a juicy headline was going to bring it up.

  17. Java Man says:

    Excellent example of a hypocritical society that cries that we are too politically correct.
    A guy is asked a question and he replies with his thoughts. Now people are all up in arms with his honest response rather than a canned PC reply. You can’t have it both ways.

  18. HankHenry says:

    Gary , has had a rough year , Drunk Driving , Divorce and now this stupid quote ,
    I am really shocked because at U Toledo , Pinkel was so guarded with the press he would never say much of anything , never any bulletin board quotes .
    College coaches now will use it against him in recruiting , it will be brutal …
    Wake up Pinkel !!!

  19. KKs first wife says:

    As a MU fan, it looks like Pinkel needs to be more informed before opening his mouth about non football subjects.