OTC: ESPN’s Salisbury Calls Chiefs’ Play “7th-Grader” Level / MU’s Pinkel Says Finebaum In A Coma

“The biggest issue on both sides is defense. Both defenses are tied for dead last in points allowed, with 75, and interceptions forced (none).”
Katherine Terrell, writer, on the matchup between the Chiefs and Saints this Sunday, New Orleans Times Picayune

“If [the Chiefs] can’t score on this defense then maybe you should start playing on Saturday afternoon against Missouri and Kansas State…and see if you can score on them.”
Sean Salisbury, NFL analyst, 810 AM
GH: Salisbury was not very kind in assessing the Chiefs’ play so far this season. He verbally eviscerated the Chiefs effort in Buffalo, described their play at a seventh grade level. He also wasn’t impressed that the Chiefs believe they didn’t quit against the Bills. Read on.

“You didn’t quit? Good. You do get paid for 60 minutes. You are going to go pick up a paycheck. You’re damn right you shouldn’t quit! You owe it to the fans and the people and your own teammates and organization. If that’s the case, then the Kansas City Chiefs should put a mask on, go in the backdoor and turn their back to the lady that hands them the check and put their hand out and make sure nobody sees their face. I don’t know of a team in the league that should quit when you’re getting your butt handed to you on a platter in a place like Buffalo that beat them like they were a seventh-grade team. Then come back and say, ‘We played through the fourth quarter.’ Great. Heck, I can find a bunch of seventh graders who can do that.”
Sean Salisbury, NFL analyst, 810 AM
GH: Bulldog Bob Fescoe’s rant may have gotten some national run on ESPN and the NFL blogs, but Salisbury’s words are the ones that should be posted in the Chiefs’ locker room. This is a former NFL player calling the Chiefs out. Bad boys! Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?

“We gotta get a win.”
Derek Johnson, 810 AM
GH: I remember when the Chiefs went through a long losing streak back when Tim Grunhard was their center and he had his own radio show. Grunhard talked about needing a win during that streak like it was a new battery charge to a cell-phone addict. Nothing divides a team quicker or more completely than losing. The Chiefs need a win.

“We will learn a lot about this team the next two weeks.”
Danan Hughes, 610 AM
GH: The Chiefs are at New Orleans and then home to play San Diego. They will need to at least split those two games to remain conscience but two more losses will have many of us heading out to corn mazes and apple orchards on Sundays in October.

“[The Chiefs] looked un-coached since the first half of the Arizona preseason game.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Is it Romeo” Is it Pioli? Is it both?

“Clark Hunt puts all of his faith in Scott Pioli. Clark Hunt’s not a football man. He just isn’t. Pioli’s not going anywhere. I can guarantee you that. He has another year on his contract.”
Jack Harry, 810 AM
GH: No way Pioli survives a five-win season. If he does, Clark is telling us all we need to know about his commitment to winning. He has none. It is more of a wish for wining.

“This is why Pioli won’t come on the show anymore. … I am not shutting up on this!”
Kevin Kietzman, on his constant crusade to have the Chiefs view acquiring or drafting a quarterback the Chiefs’ top priority, 810 AM
GH: Pioli has appeared on The Border Patrol, The Program and on 610 Sports. He has sit-down interviews with Jack Harry on TV-41, KCTV 5 and just about any other local media outlet. Has he really decided to boycott KK’s Between the Lines show for fear of being asked about drafting a QB? Do you think KK might be stretching the truth here just a tad?

“I’m still afraid [of Peyton Manning]. I still think he’s going to be really good.”
Nate Bukaty, on the Broncos’ QB, 810 AM
GH: Peyton can’t throw the deep out or the deep ball without putting a lot of air under his ball. His passes now float where they used to zing. Defenses are clogging the short routes against Denver in hope they force Manning to throw long. Taking away the short passes also lengthens the time Manning spends in the pocket. None of these things are good for a 36-year-old quarterback. Peyton will not be a factor in the AFC race.

“You may not dance in the Bolshoi if you’re not feeling well, but you play football in the SEC if you can walk and make it to midfield for the coin toss. I think with all due respect to James Franklin, but he better man up or he is going to get laughed out of this league.”
Paul Finebaum, in an interview on St. Louis sports talk radio, KMOX
GH: With all due respect? Is that just a nice way of saying “bullshit” in the South? If Finebaum wants to rip Franklin for declining to play with a shoulder injury, that’s his choice. But don’t sugarcoat your turd tossing, Paul.

“I don’t have any. I have none. I don’t care what he says. It’s not worth a response.”
Gary Pinkel, when asked what his response was to Finebaum’s comments, KMOX
GH: But Pinkel couldn’t quite stay silent after hearing Finebaum’s comments. Read on.

“That dude must have been in a coma.”
Gary Pinkel, referring to Finebaum, KMOX
GH: Pinkel made Finebaum the happiest guy on the planet with this “coma” response. Read on.

“That didn’t take long! New SEC member already ticked off. Pinkel declares war on Finebaum. Audio forthcoming.”
Paul Finebaum, @finebaum, promoting that he would be playing Pinkel’s “coma” comment on his show, Twitter
GH: This isn’t all bad for Mizzou. Pinkel’s crazy fake punt call against Georgia and Franklin’s refusal to play against ASU has made the Tigers a focal point of discussion just three weeks into the season. Now Mizzou just needs to win some SEC games.

“I think Gary Pinkel handled that well. No need to respond to guys like us.”
Josh Vernier, after replaying Pinkel’s interview on KMOX, 610 AM
GH: Did Vernier hear the same interview I heard? I sometimes wonder if this guy from Milwaukee writes out his show lines the night before and reads whatever is on his script.

“I don’t think Finebaum’s out of line. That’s the sentiment of football. That’s the sentiment of a lot of people. … Finebaum is echoing the sentiments of the South and a lot of football fans around the country about taking the needle. That’s the mentality down there. That’s the reality. … They’re not going to forget about this in the SEC. This isn’t going away.”
Jay Binkley, 610 AM
GH: Where is it going to go? None of this matters if Mizzou wins games. If they lose in the SEC, no other schools beside Kansas are going to care as well.

“It seems like everybody is just assuming that everybody just takes the needle no matter what. It is the assumption and it’s ridiculous – because not everybody does take the needle. That’s just ridiculous. You don’t know what kids are doing to go play or whether they’re tough or not tough. … That [Finebaum] dude doesn’t know!”
Jayice Pearson, 610 AM

“Jarvis Jones is now Mel Kiper’s projected #1 draft pick. I wonder if his performance vs. Mizzou had anything to do w/ that?”
Shawn Davis, @ShawnDizzle77, Missouri sports information guy, on the outstanding Georgia defender, Twitter

“Dane Crist had a far better day last Saturday than [USC’s] Matt Barkley. I’m just saying I’m not sold on Barkley.”
Nate Bukaty, while discussing the top QB prospects for the 2013 NFL draft, 810 AM
GH: Charlie Weis’ cooler had a better day than Barkley did against Stanford…but I am still not in favor of the Chiefs drafting that cooler.

“I see a superstar. I think [Barkley] is going to be a stud.”
Aaron Swarts, 810 AM
GH: I like Gino Smith at West Virginia but some of the comparisons I’m reading scare the pigskin out of me. Some of the former QBs that Gino is being compared to are Eric Crouch, Jason White and Charlie Ward. Not good.

“I once asked former NFL coach Bill Parcells what his advice to players was regarding money. He was always meddling in their business, calling them into his office and giving advice. Too few listened though. What he told them was to bank that signing bonus for a year, live on only one game check, then after a year live on the interest from the bonus. He said few players listened.”
Jen Floyd Engel, writer, on Vince Young burning through $26 million in six years, FoxSports.com
GH: Sounds easy. Must be hard. Few of us will ever know.

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12 Responses to OTC: ESPN’s Salisbury Calls Chiefs’ Play “7th-Grader” Level / MU’s Pinkel Says Finebaum In A Coma

  1. Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

    Anyone belittling JF for not taking drugs (legal or otherwise) is a 1st place moron. Congrats, Finebaum. You win. A close second is that fat tub of crap Tim “It’s Patterson” Fitzgerald of GoPowercat Illustrated. He stated yesterday that Bill Snyder would’ve never recruited a kid like JF once it was learned that he wouldn’t take the needle. LOL!!! Yeah, Bill Snyder wouldn’t want a kid like that. Give me a break. Snyder ADORES kids like JF. He’d be ecstatic to have a kid like that playing for him.

  2. Jimmy Pop says:

    As a Mizzou fan, I have no problem with Franklin’s personal choice to not take the needle. I understand that some players do and some don’t, and I don’t change my opinions on players based on needle taking.

    Bottom line, none of this is an issue if Pinkel didn’t say that Franklin refused the shot in a pregame interview and then again after the game. It should have never been made public, and it is all on Pinkel that it was.

    And Greg, nicely done cherry picking the coma comment from Pinkel without using the context in which it was said. All week, Pinkel said that anyone that questioned Franklin’s toughness after last season must have been in a coma. In the interview about Finebaum, he no commented as you quoted and then the hosts followed up using Pinkel’s words from previous interviews where he said that anyone that questioned JF must have been in a coma. And it was only then that Pinkel said Finebaum must have been in a coma.

    Pinkel could not have handled the game day interviews regarding Franklin worse. He could not have handled the Finebaum questions better. Finebaum is a shit stirrer, period. And an asshole for calling out a college kid for not taking pain meds.

  3. kchoya says:

    Didn’t Sean Salisbury get fired from ESPN years ago? Something about dong pics on the cell phone?

  4. nick says:

    On 610 this morning, Bill Maas said the Chiefs need a player or two who will knock over a water-cooler.

    Are the Chiefs players softees because Pioli drafted/built a team of low-energy guys or is the team taking on the laid-back personality of their coach? Or both?

  5. Johnny Utah says:

    Franklin knows 10 times more about toughness than some office jockey like Finebaum. No need to respond to a toddler throwing a tantrum.

  6. JS says:

    I applaud Franklin for standing up for his beliefs. I think that more players should refuse the painkillers because it masks problems and then they deal with those decisions physically for the rest of their life. We all know coaches apply pressure by saying you have play through the pain etc. They don’t tell a player what to do but you know by the rhetoric what they are saying. “Do anything to stay on the field no matter what or you won’t be a starter.” Coaches are many times more worried about their own paycheck than a supposed student-athletes health.

  7. Bdogg says:

    how about constructing a team of 53 “good” players and not 53 of the “right” players? how often do we see any of the defensive hits on highlights? never. another thing that gripes me is we don’t know of these players because they aren’t allowed to talk. i did appreciate that King Carl put them out in the public. I think we could maybe appreciate this team a little more if we knew them as human beings. Their interviews on the radio are really boring.

  8. Smartman says:

    The Chiefs didn’t quit. Hell, they never got started. Running out of gas at the end of the game is one thing. Starting with your tank on empty is another. Romeo could grow Artis Gilmore’s afro and stand on a 10′ ladder and he’d still be in over his head.

    Nice job coming to the defense of your QB, Gary “hic” Pinkel. The coma comment should give James Franklin as much of a boost as I don’t get out of that 5 Hour Energy crap.

    All due respect, but Finebaum was in order. Like it or not SEC Football is a different world. At a minimum, even if it was Franklin’s decision not to play, the official word should have been that he was not medically cleared to play. If the US Government can drum up the bullshit that some obscure YouTube video ignited the Middle East then Gary Pinkel ought a be able to find a doctor on staff to say Franklin can’t play. If Pinkel can’t persuade his star QB to take the juice for the good of the team then he’s not gonna be a very successful coach in the SEC. In the SEC you eat, sleep, dream, walk, talk and shit football. That’s just how it is.

    Peyton Manning is still the best QB in the AFC West. As the season goes on he’ll only get better. He’s a winner, he’s a competitor. He may not be able to put the whole team and his shoulders and carry them but he’s got bigger balls than Palmer, Rivers and Princess Cassel combined.

  9. tigerdan4 says:

    Mark my words. The Saints are going to get well in a big way on Sunday. It’s going to be ugly. Drew Brees is going to eat the Chiefs defense alive. It’s going to be like the 2008 Mizzou defense trying to stop Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford. I say Brees tops 400 yards passing before he comes out in the last quarter. Saints 45, Chiefs 20. It will be 45-6 before the Chiefs get 2 garbage scores late.

  10. Joe Blow says:

    I was going to consult my bulldogs about their feelings on the Chiefs’ chances, but they’re both flopped out on the floor, snoring away, with their tongues sticking out of their mouths. Something tells me that’s still not a very tough nickname..

  11. KC Res says:

    It is hard to take seriously a radio program that has both Sean “Dong Picks” Salisbury and Herm “Talking Loud Saying Nothing” Edwards as weekly guests.