OTC: NFL Owners & Players War With Words Over CBA / The Clarks Know Nothing

“Look guys I have no reason to
lie! The truth of the matter is we got tricked, duped, led astray, hoodwinked,
Vonnie Holliday, Redskins DE, after the NFL owners voted 31-0 on the revised CBA agreement, Twitter
GH: Holliday channeled the words of Denzel Washington’s character in Spike
Lee’s movie Malcolm X. Vonnie might be jockeying for an acting career if this football gig doesn’t work out.

“I honestly believe it was all a misunderstanding.”
Rudy Niswanger, in an interview with Bob Fescoe, on the negative reactions by some players, media and fans, after the owners voted 31-0 to advance the new contract Thursday night, 610 AM
GH: Niswanger was a voice of reason amidst a sea of blathering idiots. Rudy told us that as of Friday morning he still was unsure what the new contract contained because he and most of the player reps had not seen it. How novel – waiting to blast away at the hand that feeds the players before knowing what the offer states. Not all player reactions were as measured. Read on.

“This is nothing more than an attempt to break the spirits of our men and to fracture the solidarity that we’ve exemplified up and to this point. This is nothing more than an attempt to get the fans to turn on the players and add even more pressure to the situation
and an attempt to force-feed us the deal.”
George Wilson, Bills player rep, NationalFootballPost.com
GH: Here is a news flash to Wilson, the NFL players and the owners – most fans don’t give two Britney Spears’ toots about who is right, wrong or indifferent in these negotiations. We just expect you to both figure it out and play football for enormous sums of money few of us can even comprehend.

“At the end of the day it’s just business.”
Rudy Niswanger, 810 AM
GH: What is lost by both parties is that to the fans it’s not business – it’s our recreation. It’s our fantasy league draft. It’s our passion. Business has very little to do with it outside paying off that 56-inch Samsung flat screen from NFM.

“It sucks the lockout wasn’t lifted today…but as players we have to stick together and fight for what we believe in. If we don’t who will!”
Reggie Bush, Saints running back, Twitter
GH: Does Reggie really think we feel sorry for him – an underperforming and
vastly overpaid jock whose selfish acts cost his university their national
championship and himself the Heisman? Call your lawyer, Reg. Maybe he feels
your pain.

“It reminds me of back in 1982. They didn’t respect the players! They should respect these guys as men! A little bit of this I get because the players feel like they were disrespected
at the end.”
Herman Edwards, on the owners vote
and actions Thursday, ESPN
GH: Herman is such a tool. He is scared to death he’s not going to be looked upon as a “players coach.” He goes out of his way to paint himself as one with the players. I get so sick of his “shield” speech and the rest of his rhetoric. How have the NFL owners disrespected 1,900 players who would probably all be making 90-95% less if they were out in the free market with the rest of us chumps? That “disrespected” crap is what I hear
from all these young kids involved in drive-bys and random shootings. Herm
might be the dimmest former NFL head coach this side of Gunther. How did the
Chiefs get so lucky to land both these Brainiacs?

“I’m extremely optimistic.”
Rudy Niswanger, Chiefs player rep, when asked if he was optimistic the players would soon be back to work, 810 AM
GH: Billions of dollars are at stake here. I would be pretty optimistic this deal is going to get done as well.

“Our expenditures were much higher last year than was reported in a number of publications.”
Clark Hunt, when asked by Kevin Kietzman if the Chiefs would have more salary cap room than most NFL teams, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman broke into 810’s ESPN network programming Thursday night to bring us a mostly worthless interview with The Clarks. Hunt rarely has anything of substance to say and this impromptu interview did nothing to alter his reputation as a poor communicator. Hunt repeatedly told KK that things were too “complicated” or “complex” to explain. Let’s just say it fell far short of Todd Leabo holding up a cell phone to broadcast Ethan Lock’s telling of Carl Peterson verbal undressing of John Tait over 1510’s airwaves back in 1999.

“Do you have that in an email?”
Mark Carman, to a caller who identified himself as a local fireman who had been invited to the Chiefs’ September 11th game to display the USA flag with 100 fireman but
were told they would need to purchase $25 tickets to attend the game, 610 AM
GH: I heard this phone cal live to 610’s Night Shift evening show while mowing the lawn last night. The fire fighter explained that the Chiefs had invited 100 firemen to the 9/11 game to commemorate the 10 year anniversary – but they were told they’d be charged $25 each! The story spread via Twitter and the social media. A few hours later Nick Wright announced on Twitter that the Chiefs had contacted him and changed their mind.
The fire fighters would be allowed to participate at no charge. I hope the
Chiefs pick up their parking fees as well.

“If anybody should know the pitfalls of a name that can be easily mispronounced it is Clark Hunt.”
Nick Wright, on the Chiefs becoming known as the Kansas City Cheaps, 610 AM
GH: I am guessing you will not hear that joke on the Chiefs broadcast partner 810.

“Quite simply, we lost our way.”
Editorial comment, in the final edition of News of the World, a 168-year-old British tabloid that closed due to a cell-phone tapping scandal
GH: Character still counts. Even in journalism.

“(Rupert) Murdoch is endlessly fascinating to watch because his talents and brilliance are equaled only by his amorality.”
Tina Brown, on the owner of News of the World and multiple media outlets, thedailybeast.com

“I’d rather smoke crack than eat cheese from a can.”
Gwyneth Paltrow, on a British talk show
GH: Something tells me Gwyneth wouldn’t make it through the order line at Arthur Bryant’s on Brooklyn. Her loss.

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42 Responses to OTC: NFL Owners & Players War With Words Over CBA / The Clarks Know Nothing

  1. Fake Ned Yost says:

    Social media is the now.

    Those not paying attention will be doomed to fall by the twitter sword.

    Some amazing “gets” by those using Social Media lately:

    Nick Wright had @ChrisWarcraft on his show FIRST and read the tweet about #Douchebags

    Nick Wright led with the 9/11 Firefighter Scandal

    KK tweeted out that he had Clark Hunt on the air and lobbed softballs and never asked him one thing about the firefighter scandal or the perk for ticket takers…

    Say what you will about #RadioWars, to some it’s just filler, but you’re seeing a battle emerge for how stories are broken and covered. You can’t break a story in a newspaper anymore. Soon, you won’t even be able to break a story on a website. You’ll need to break stories in real time at 140 characters a post.

    Lead, follow or get out of the way.

    • Merle Tagladucci says:

      Yes FakeNed, Twitter is serving us well. Those of us who are on it, get it.

      Unfortunately, as you know firsthand, Twitter tends to digress into one big bathroom wall at times. We see this all the time when a Tweeter thinks they’ve come up with a clever thought or funny one-liner. Their thumbs can’t type fast enough. They have to share. They want acknowledgment. “Re-tweet me!” We also see it when someone thinks up a new hashtag they desperately want to catch on, so they tweet 10 or 12 jokes that fit their little tag, hoping others will “get it” and start hashtagging along with them. They want attention for the work they put in. It justifies the time they spend on Twitter. Twitter is really, really important to the psyche of some people, and you can tell. It’s kind of becoming the new way of feeling substantial, relevant and noticed. Take Nick Wright for example.

      I point all this out, and to you specifically, because I used to follow you on Twitter and then dumped you because you kept clogging my feed up with a constant barrage of worthless comments and one-liners that repeatedly fell flat. It got so out of hand one day, I had about 20 FakeNed tweets in a row, all tweeted within 1 ten min time frame, and I’m thinking, “Jesus dude, back away from your smart phone. Release the Twitter. Let it go. Find something to do. And quit junking up my feed.” That had actually happened 5 or 6 times previously, until that last day when I’d finally seen enough.

      Seriously though, I’m glad I was around for the FakeNed ascension and peak a couple of months ago. It was fun. You were on fire for a minute and are a perfect example of how Twitter can be used as a platform by any dude willing and clever enough to get people to pay attention. But in the end that’s what Twitter seems to be for some people, a platform to receive attention. There’s a fine line there – between someone saying something that gets attention to being someone who says things hoping to get attention.

      Just point all that out for the scorekeepers.

      I may follow you again at some point, after you start seeing the ball again and making solid contact. Until then I’d like to invite everyone to follow me @MerleTagladucci where I tweet funny, mean and insensitive things all for the expressed purpose of being either liked, reviled or recognized.

      Have a great day.

      • cernechy says:

        A buddy and I had this exact same conversation about FakeNed… good job merle…. until the shameless plug at the end, now I definitely won’t follow you.

  2. Ptolemy says:

    Politics is WAY more compelling right now than an insignificant slapfight by a couple of ratings bottom-feeders.

    Reduce your government footprint.

  3. SorryRoyalsFan says:

    Wait…Vonnie Holliday is still playing?!?

  4. Hoppy says:

    “GH: Here is a news flash to Wilson, the NFL players and the owners – most fans don’t give two Britney Spears’ toots about who is right, wrong or indifferent in these negotiations. We just expect you to both figure it out and play football for enormous sums of money few of us can even comprehend.”

    This is spot on Greg. It’s quite amusing yet at the same time sickening to me how the two afternoon talk show hosts have dug into separate camps based mostly on politics and economic environmental factors. Nick assumes (perhaps rightly so) that generally his audience is a young, liberal one on top of the fact with his enormous political bias’s due to his father’s position and his immense white guilt complex so obviously he’s going to be sounding the horn that the man is getting the players down once again. KK assumes (again perhaps rightfully so) that his listening audience is older, conservative, management types on top of his bias with the massive contract with the Chiefs so obviously he going to be sounding the horn that no other business model has employees telling their bosses how its going to be, among other “anomalies”. They are both ridiculous…..there is nobody to feel sorry in this fight except for maybe us the fans who are the sole reason they are able to battle over stupid amounts of money. However, I really don’t even feel sorry for us the fans. We are the ones that give them the power and I’m guilty and probably guiltier than the next b/c I am an football addict. For the points previously stated I understand the whole point of the hosts inciting the audiences to side with their cause and attempting to politicize this on sports radio airwaves because controversy sells….. but the way in which both of them have been beating the drum tirelessly and actually believing that fans are taking sides when both sides are loaded to the gills is insulting….all we want is football on Sundays. Regardless of political affiliation there is no side to champion in this deal and the NFL, NFLPA, KK, and NW are more or less mocking our intelligence by having this type of crap occur and having us take sides during an economic climate with massive deficits and massive unemployment all around us. I guess I need to find a football addicts anonymous class to attend on Sunday afternoons.

  5. Cliffy says:

    I like Twitter too, but come on. It was breaking story about the Chiefs being cheap, not Watergate.

  6. The Independent Rage says:

    Vonnie Holliday? I thought he was dead. And speaking of stealing from movies, Reggie Bush’s “If we don’t who will” blast sounds like something straight out of “Machete” (similar to Nick Wright’s “Mike Hunt”-esque conjuring up of the original “Porkys”). That’s more fake than Reggie Ex Kim Kardashian’s meat puppets.

    And please stop sugarcoating your views of Herm Edwards like that. But you are correct that Gunther is no Brainiac — more like Solomon Grundy, but without the third-person speak.

  7. Jim says:

    I’ve about had my fill of all the hand wringing and the doomsday predictions for the impending NFL season. Here’s a news flash: The NFL will play an ENTIRE season and all will be right in the world. Nobody, repeat NOBODY, leaves $9 or $10 billion dollars on the table because they couldn’t “agree” on a contract. I’d wager that the vast majority of the players NEED to get paid and get paid SOON. How many of these guys live paycheck to paycheck? Standing on principle is one thing. Making sure your baby-mommas and the Benz payment gets paid trumps principle every time. All those numb-nut players that claim they are getting screwed or taken advantage of don’t live in the real world. Ask JaMarcus Russell if he got screwed when he cashed that $30 million dollar check and then promptly got ran from the league. Trash talking between millionaires and billionaires is a freaking joke. Save the politics for those worthless assholes in Washington D.C. I like my sports………sans rhetoric.

    • Mike says:

      Don’t forget that a lot of these owners ‘need’ the revenue afforded to them by the TV rights’ deals too. Not all of them are that awash in cash. But if they are, they would really prefer to not use their own money to service team debt (for guys that aren’t institutional owners), stadium debt (for those who couldn’t get their stadiums paid 100% by the public), and other typical expenditures that help keep their teams on the technological and competitive edge.
      Jerry Jones and Clark Hunt have oodles of captial, for sure, but I’d bet anything they would overwhelmingly prefer to service their outstanding stadium/facilities debt by paying it off through revenues generated by the football season, instead of tapping into their own reserves to stay current.

      (Unless your name is Mike Brown, who negotiated the sweetest of sweetheart deals in the 90′s. Glad I’ve never been a fan of the Bungles.)

      It works both ways. Bottom-lining it, despite the attempts at power-plays, and despite the rhetoric and posturing, both sides know very well to not kill the golden goose. It’s something I firmly believed in March 11th, and it’s something I still believe in now.
      I bet we have an agreement by Tuesday…and I bet all camps are open by 8/1.

  8. Orphan of the Road says:

    Why didn’t KK ask Clark about taking away the ticket and parking folks benefit of watching the game after they finished their duties? Oh yeah, KK is a frickin’ lap dog when he has to confront anyone. Especially his puppet master.

    Lamar would have never done this deed. He was a class act and people around Kansas City, all the Just Another Joe’s, knew it.

    My friend got a job in hs (65) handing out towels in the locker room after practice. Worked every summer for the Chiefs. When he got his degree from MU, Lamar hired him to run World’s of Fun.

    Another hs friend was killed and his pregnant wife injured when he ran into a piece of equipment owned by Lamar’s company building a section of I-435 down where the old dragstrip was by Front Street.

    Lamar sent his personal secretary to the widow’s home and gave her a checkbook full of blank checks signed by Lamar. She was shocked and grateful. She started writing checks for the incidentals which were popping up.

    A few days later the secretary was back. Had another checkbook and asked to have the first one back telling her not to use them to pay little bills. Don’t write a check for less than $100 he told her.

    Clark reminds me of Norman Braman, the ex owner of the Eagles whom Buddy Ryan allways call “That guy in France”.

    • Greg Hall says:

      I spoke to Lamar a number of times and he was as regular a guy as they come. Absolutely no uppercrust crap about him. He almost seemed shy about his role as an NFL owner. He was definitely a fan. He got as giddy knowing the players as a HS kid. Was he the best owner? No. He let King Carl drive his franchise to where money ruled and the fan base was taken for granted. Clark looks to be putting a PHD effort on what Carl started.

      • Orphan of the Road says:

        Talked to my friend who takes tixs earlier this evening. ALL of those folks are ready to just not show up for the first regular season home game.

        Now they are required to wear black pants, socks and shoes to be able to work.

        Lamar would always find him on his gate and congratulate him on his anniversaries. They didn’t even acknowledge he had put in over 40yrs on the job.

  9. Arte says:

    Kietzman should have asked Clark why Jack Ruby had Lamar’s phone number in his pocket when he was arrested. Damnit I want answers.

    • Orphan of the Road says:

      I thought it was Lamar’s dad’s phone number.

      You know the guy with the secret family.

  10. smartman says:

    Gwyneth Paltrow is the biggest cunt of alltime. Her husband is a close second.
    Roger Goodell is third.

    Players and owners trying to sound like Churchill and FDR are priceless. Players should not be allowed to have the word RESPECT in their vocabulary until they can properly apply it to the way they treat their baby mommas and children.

    Clark Hunt is no longer to be referred to as Lucky Sperm. Moving forward it’s Stupid Lucky Sperm. They should have an episode of Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader with Clark and Dan Glass.

    Herm’s a players coach. That’s exactly why he ain’t a coach anymore.

    Not letting the ticket-takers watch the games this year is lower than whale shit on the bottom of the ocean. Fuck the Chiefs! They’ll NEVER get another penny from me. I suggest everybody eat a 12 piece from Popeyes, have a couple ears of corn and a 12 pack of Keystone. Next day take your dump in a Zip-Lock bag, put it in an envelope and send it to Clark-CUNT at 1AD.

  11. nick says:

    Great post Greg.

    The players and owners are simply little boys having a pissing contest, wih their urine spraying on us fans. I’m mystified how anyone can take sides in this ultra-greedy showdown. Especially in this horrible economy, with many out of work or struggling to get by….it’s truly disgusting and embarrassing.

    But I’ll be like everybody else when it’s finally settled: geeking out over my fantasy team and wearing Chiefs red every Sunday.

  12. Java Man says:

    Clark Hunt on with Nick @ 4:00. Could be entertaining.

  13. Esteban O'Riley says:

    Was listening to KK interview Niswanger today (Friday). He asked Rudy,in a giddy schoolgirl tone, if he was having fun with all of this. Rudy, obviously taken aback by the question, went on to state that he wasn’t having fun with the negotiation process and that he was a football player and would rather be on the field having fun. KK asks such dumbass questions. My guess is KK is about to climax at the thought of football starting up again. Then he can improve his ratings without exuding any further effort.

  14. nick says:

    Jerk move by Nick Wright advertising Clark Hunt as a guest at 4:00, then having a computer voice pretend to be Clark Hunt answer his smart-assed and snarky questions. Whoever wrote the computer voice lines should be fired. Most unfunniest, weakest radio bit I’ve heard in a long time. Max, Tannah and Moffett could done a funnier bit in their sleep.

    Carman just interupted the crappy bit to say Hunt and the Chiefs WILL pay for the firefighters and ticket-takers’ tickets.

    • Greg Hall says:

      Humor is not Nick’s strong suit. Promoting a Clark Hunt interview for hours and then delivering a lame bit not only hurts your credibility but your listenability.

      • rick says:

        I thought it was hilarious. Much better then that lets laugh at our own jokes during the morning drive on 610. my 2 cents.

      • DonkeyPunch says:

        Nick slipping and calling FakeClarkHunt Mr. Hunt was classic. Just goes to show this is all a dog & pony show.
        Nick, on several occasions, has stated that he wants a national radio show (translation……Big $$$), however he pokes KK for selling out to sponsors to get money

  15. Big Dog says:

    DId I just hear Kietz spend 10 minutes interviewing golfers as they came off the golf course? Hey Danny, he shot an 82, what did you shoot? Seriously, will he ever learn? or is this all for Mitch Holtus’ wife?

  16. Hoppy says:

    I think today proved that all “#radiowars” has done is provided 610 way more notoriety, (they couldn’t pay for this kind of advertising….or could they??) and furthered DJ white guilt’s plunge into ultimate douchebaggery. He must interact and be one hell of a guy out of the studio because im bewildered how anybody thinks this guy the next thing. It sure hasn’t affected KK, he is still the same lazy, arrogant ass he has been for the last couple of years (ok he’s always been an arrogant ass, just not a lazy one) and his show is more and more unlistenable. DJ White Guilt’s tirade on KK/810 followed by his computerized interview with the evil Clark Hunt spanned the gambit from embarrassing to clueless. Is KK’s schilling for the Chiefs/the Hunt’s…. absolutely and that’s a shame but 610 is doing the same thing just in a complete opposite manner by bashing/highlighting every move made by the Chiefs, so how exactly is that any different. I guess I’m the real dumbass here because I continue to listen to these d-bags.

  17. newbaum turk says:

    Caught the first part of Nick Wright’s show today only because I was listening to Rome and I’m glad I did. I still don’t like NW but his calling out of KK was great. It’s the kind of thing KK would have done back in the 1510 days. I will give 810 credit for lambasting the Royals poor organization when they had them on 810. Their on-air staff did not seem to let up on the Royals just because they were on their station. That said, it appears the opposite is true of their relationship with the Chiefs, especially with KK. NW was correct today when he said the fireman issue used to be up KK’s alley, especially when Carl Peterson was here but not a word about it on their station today. As an 810 listener, I am suffering for it and listening less and less. That does not mean I listen to 610 more. I just don’t listen period. The real test will be this Fall during the Chiefs post-game show on 810 with Jack Harry and Clinkscale. If the Chiefs are bad, and they should be worse than last year given their schedule, Jack and Danny should hammer them like they have in the past. It’s the best show on AM radio if you ask me. If they dial it down then we will all know what has happened and I’ll be sad that my favorite show sucks.

  18. Brian (Indep, MO) says:

    Greg, who are you to question Herm’s motive for his comments and call him “a tool?” Ironic, considering you criticized Nick Wright for calling KK a “whore.” Seems like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

    • Greg Hall says:

      I’m nothing more than a guy with an opinion. Why should Herm’s motives be above questioning? He’s just another ex-coach who is as full of BS as any of them.

  19. Fake Ned Yost says:

    @Merle, the beauty of twitter is the unfollow button. I’m glad you used it if you don’t like my feed. I tweet for one person and one person only. Do I vomit tweet sometimes?Yep. But nobody gets to tell you or me how to use twitter. You get to follow or not. I’m not in the media, i’m just a poor schlub, probably like yourself. I just use twitter to comment on the world around me, crack some jokes and interact with the world. Not interested in follower counts.

    I do happen to love the hashtag jokes and will do more in the future.

    Follow KrisKetz, and have a good day.

    • Merle Tagladucci says:


      No hard feelings. I never tried to tell you how to use Twitter. Do your thing man. Keep on keepin’ on. I just pointed out that I didn’t think your game was as strong as it was earlier in the season, so I bailed, mainly because I kept seeing incessant amounts of FakeNed tweets clogging up my feed all the time.

  20. Orville Sandusky says:

    Hall you are right about Herm. Show me a “players coach” who really succeeds. There are some that get along with players but would never want to be defined as a players coach.

    • Orphan of the Road says:

      Buddy Ryan was a player’s coach. Refused to coach the replacements in 87. The players would have walked through fire for him.

      He might have been successful but That Guy From France fired him for not being a boot licker.

      Herm makes me (almost) glad Haley doesn’t say much.

      I have this visual of the sound man trying to get the mike away from Herm but he holds on as if crazy glued to it.

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