OTC: Broncos Loss Is Legendary / Dorsey New Chiefs’ GM / Belcher Dead Drunk

“Watching Denver, I just felt they thought there was no way Baltimore was going to come in there and win that game. I just thought Denver thought there was no way they were going to lose to Baltimore. They just totally overlooked the task at hand.”
Bill Maas, 610 AM
GH: Maas knows something about overconfidence. He caught hell from Marty Schottenheimer back in 1992, prior to the Patriots/Chiefs game when he was quoted saying, “All we have to do is throw our helmets on the field,” to defeat the lousy Patriots. Maas’ Chiefs won in a close call, unlike Manning’s Broncos. Read on.

“There was a zombie-like state to the Broncos players Sunday as they packed up their belongings in trash bags, backpacks and gym bags. It wasn’t so much that there was laughter or tears, or anger or relief, as much as there was of feeling nothing.”
Mike Klis, writer, after the Broncos suffered their first loss in 12 games in their opening round of the NFL playoffs, Denver Post
GH: This was the Broncos’ Linn Elliot loss – with the Bronco safety Rahim Moore playing the role of Elliot in this tragedy. The Broncos hadn’t lost in three months. They had a bye into the playoffs. They had buried the Ravens only a month ago on the road. Things weren’t just good in Denver, they were Peyton-Manning good. And it all went poof on an improbable TD bomb and a Manning INT. It will forever live in Denver’s craw like Elliot’s feeble foot lives in ours.

“Weather-wise, we had not had anything like that all season. There was some unknown going into that game. You can’t simulate it. I tried everything from putting my hand in a freezing tank. But you just can’t simulate it.”
Peyton Manning, on playing in the freezing temperatures in Denver on Saturday, Denver Post
GH: Manning didn’t play poorly – he threw for 290 yards and three TDs – but he faded at the end when he should have been at his Pro-Bowl best. He looked cold. He looked old. He is old. There is a reason Manning took a knee with 31 seconds in the game and Atlanta’s Mat Ryan used his 31 seconds to put the Falcons into the AFC championship game.

“Little surprised more not being made of Peyton’s physical collapse Saturday. Refused to challenge downfield & throws were dying. No mustard.”
Evan Silva, @evansilva, Twitter
GH: Manning is now a “touch” passer after multiple neck surgeries at the age of 37. He’s still very good on a nice day in October. He is something less in single digit temps with a gloved right hand.

“The Ravens’ offense was great against Denver. But the Balt defense? It stinks. And Ravens know it. Here is what Ravens fans don’t get. I don’t care if DEN won or lost. And I was right on about Balt D.”
Mark Kiszla, @markkiszla, Twitter
GH: The Denver loss leaves us with the Ravens traveling to New England next Sunday for the AFC title game. It looks like it has the potential for a Pats’ blowout win. Tom Brady, the greatest player the NFL has ever witnessed, might put up 60 on Ray Lewis’ blackbirds.

“Alfred Williams wore a Broncos uniform in the press box. Love ya, dude. But you’re not playing
anymore. There’s level of professionalism, even in lowly media. If I wore ND jersey in press box for Domer game, I’d be kicked out. Without a credential, then you, me or Alfred Williams shouldn’t be in press box. Period. Act like a pro or be gone.”
Mark Kiszla, @markkiszla, on the former CU and Bronco linebacker who is now a Denver sports talk radio host, Twitter
GH: Kiszla’s critique of Williams comes on the heels of Steven St. John’s grinning photo op with Andy Reid. It is simply a bad look for anyone in the media to play fan so publicly. For those of you who have said SSJ is an entertainer and not a member of the media – I believe you think too little of the man.

“I have been consistent with this: When [Jim] Harbaugh told Elway no on [his] way to San Fran, it was huge L for Broncos. Fox is average NFL coach. Right now, SF’s Harbaugh is best coach working in football. By far. Belichick? Please. Saban? Not close.”
Mark Kiszla, @markkiszla, after the 49ers’ win over Green Bay, Twitter
GH: And to think Harbaugh at least flirted with the idea of taking the Kansas job. Well, maybe not flirted. More like winked at it.

“The Kaepernick move [to have him replace Alex Smith as the 49ers’ starting QB] required boldness and an understanding of how his unique skill set could dramatically alter the dynamic on the gridiron. But it paid off, as usual, because Harbaugh knows how to push the buttons to make his players believe.”
Paul Gackle, writer, San Francisco Examiner

GH: This is one reason I would have preferred that Clark Hunt chose to be bold with his head coaching hire instead of safe. The NFL is changing quickly. I believe quarterbacks are becoming more like running backs where they have a four or five year career life span. You have to be ever changing and have an eye for extreme talent. I believe that takes the energy and insight of youth.

“Last year he was carrying a clipboard. This year he’s carrying a team.”
Nike Football, @usnikefootball, on the sudden rise to fame of San Francisco’s second-year quarterback, Colin Kaepernick, Twitter
GH: Stanzi? They both have the weird looks and lanky height… 

“When teams lose in the playoffs, ads with their players always look kinda funny. Looking at you, Manning, Rodgers, Jennings and Matthews…
Kurtis Seaboldt, KSeaboldt, Twitter
GH: Those Packer ads do seem a bit dated and even self-serving now that Green Bay has been discount double checked by the Niners.  

“I’m crying for crying out loud! I’ve never cried after a win!”
Tony Gonzalez, in an interview with Tony Boselli after his Falcons staged an improbable comeback with only 31 seconds on the game clock and a three-play drive for the game-winning 49-yard field goal, 810 AM
GH: Gonzalez’s season was over with 31 seconds in the game. But the NFL showed us once again this weekend that is America’s greatest spectator sport. Even I knew Gonzo was going to run a hook to get the Falcons in field-goal range. There was simply nothing the Seahawks could do about stopping it. Tony’s first playoff win of his career was a damn good one.

“Look around this [Seahawks] locker-room-in-mourning and all you see are possibilities.”
Steve Kelley, columnist, after Seattle was eliminated by Atlanta despite a furious second-half comeback, Seattle Times
GH: Contrast what Denver sees in its locker room with what the Seahawks view looks like. The Chiefs need to emulate Seattle, not the desperate and aging Broncos.

“I think you saw, with Russell Wilson’s development, how far he can take us. Obviously, he’s a franchise quarterback. He’s a guy who wins games for you. We saw that today. He should have been credited with a comeback win and he wasn’t. I think we wanted to win a little extra for him, just because it’s his rookie year and he’s played so well.”
Zach Miller, Seattle’s tight end, on his rookie QB from Wisconsin, Seattle Times
GH: This third-round pick in last year’s draft will haunt every NFL team who passed on this undersized quarterback. That’s all of them – multiple times – if you’re counting. I think Russell Wilson is the best thing to hit the NFL since Tom Brady.

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@googlefiber, Twitter
GH: Does anybody have google fiber in their home yet? Is it really 100x faster than Time Warner? Give us a quick review of whether or not google is good or playing Pioli.

“A year ago, [John] Dorsey turned down chances to interview for GM jobs in Chicago and Indianapolis. He expressed contentment with his role in Green Bay and said his family liked living here. In Kansas City, Dorsey will work side-by-side with Reid, a close friend who was a Packers’ assistant coach from 1992-’98. … His wife, Patricia A. Sexton-Dorsey, is a Kansas native and attorney who practiced law in Kansas City.”
Bob McGinn, writer, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
GH: We heard the same stories about Pioli turning down other suitors in favor of Clark Hunt and the Chiefs. It appears Kansas City and the Chiefs organization still holds some allure for some of what the NFL considers its best and brightest.

“One of the things that’s going to be very appealing in Kansas City is John’s personality. He’s very down to earth. The fans will take to him in a hurry. He’s great in the office, he’s great in the locker room.”
Kevin Harlan, who has known Dorsey since he played for the Packers in the 1980s, Kansas City Star

“Best player available. We live it.”
John Dorsey, explaining the Packers’ draft philosophy prior to the 2011 NFL draft, Kansas City Star
GH: With the number-one pick in the draft, that doesn’t sound like Dorsey will be eyeing a quarterback with his top pick – unless he trades down.

“Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher was legally drunk when he killed his girlfriend at their home and then himself outside the team’s Arrowhead Stadium practice facility, according to autopsy results released today. The results show Belcher’s blood-alcohol level was .17 when he died, about five hours after police found him sleeping in his Bentley in front of his secret girlfriend’s apartment. That alcohol level is more than twice the legal driving limit. … Belcher’s blood-alcohol level at his death indicates his level could have been .22 or higher when officers encountered him in his car.”
Christine Vendel, writer, Kansas City Star
GH: The two cops who let Belcher walk into that apartment complex had no idea what destruction their decision would lead to only a few hours later. Read on.

“Police roused him two hours later after someone called 911 to report his Bentley as suspicious. Officers noted the car was running and legally parked. They said Belcher ‘initially displayed possible signs of being under the influence (asleep and disoriented),’ but after a few minutes of being awake, his demeanor and communication ‘became more fluid and coherent.’ The officers and their sergeant could not smell any alcohol on his breath or person.”
Christine Vendel, writer, Kansas City Star
GH: Whoa. .22 and no smell of alcohol? If true, those cops are in the wrong business. If not true, ditto.

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31 Responses to OTC: Broncos Loss Is Legendary / Dorsey New Chiefs’ GM / Belcher Dead Drunk

  1. kchoya says:

    “Whoa. .22 and no smell of alcohol? If true, those cops are in the wrong business. If not true, ditto.”

    Greg – it’s possible he ingested [the] alcohol after the interaction with the cops. Trust me, having done DUI defense work, if there is any way they can include it in their report, cops will always say they smelled alcohol.

    • Greg Hall says:

      True. For the cops’ sake, I hope so.

    • CM70 says:

      “if there is any way they can include it in their report, cops will always say they smelled alcohol.”

      Unless the police officers are star-struck and want to seem cool by doing a rich millionaire football player a favor by letting him off with a warning. It probably happens all the time, while “normals” have the hammer brought down on them because when you don’t have money or power, authority will typically treat you like worthless garbage.

      But if you have $$$? There’s no end to the favors and leniency given to you.

      Don’t forget: There are many stories of people being arrested for a DUI for just SITTING in their car even with the engine OFF. Maybe these officers shouldn’t lose their jobs, but they should at least be punished for letting this happen.

      • Matt says:

        Star-struck by a middling linebacker for a really bad football team? Honestly, I follow the Chiefs closely but I wouldn’t know Belcher if I ran into him anywhere in KC before his passing.

        • CM70 says:

          You don’t think cops in this city are Chiefs fans? I bet most are. Plus, I’m pretty sure at some point Belcher made it clear to the officers that he was a football player.

          And even if you wouldn’t know Belcher by name, I’m pretty sure if you had seen him you might guess that he was a professional athlete (they tend to be large and in good physical shape).

  2. JFP says:

    “He caught hell from Marty Schottenheimer back in 1992, prior to the Patriots/Chiefs game when he was quoted saying, “All we have to do is throw our helmets on the field,” to defeat the lousy Patriots. Maas’ Chiefs won in a close call, unlike Manning’s Broncos.”

    If memory serves, Maas said that to a local TV reporter after his weekly radio show he had at The Quaff. Was that the game where it rained what seemed like a foot of water in the 1st half? Dick MacPherson was coaching the Pats, I believe.

    God, the Chiefs have been so bad for so long. We need new memories. Sigh.

  3. Jim says:

    I want to see Wilson and Kaepernick do it AGAIN next year. The NFL has a way of figuring out “different” QB’s. P. Manning gets a year older for 2013. His 16 game season seemed nearly impossible given his age. The “drop-off” happens to everyone. Could 2013 be Manning’s year with such a crushing defeat on the heels of such high expectations? We’ll see.

  4. Mark x says:

    … good point.

  5. The Smartman says:

    Pete Carroll is a scumbag. Glad Seattle got wasted like they did. In my world Pete would have to stay out of coaching for as long as USC is on probation.

    I don’t care who you are. Playing in freezing temps with a glove on your growing hand is gonna take some zip off the ball. The INT he threw was a bone headed play. Broncos still the team to beat in the AFC west in 2013.

    The Harbaugh sisters are great coaches. When they’ve got some hardware on their fingers like The Hoodie, I’ll become a believer. Until then, it’s all sizzle, no steak. With Ray Lewis gone next year, whole new team and not for the better. In SF with Alex Smith likely gone what are you gone do when CK gets his bell terminally rung during one of his 40 yd dashes?

    The Chiefs are committed to Old Man Football, hell, AARP football.. I can already smell the Hai Karate and Absorbine Jr. in the coaches locker room.

  6. Bill Manion (@Bill_Manion) says:

    “You have to be ever changing and have an eye for extreme talent. I believe that takes the energy and insight of youth.”

    Jim Harbaugh is 49, Pete Carrol is 61 and Andy Reid is 54. So what exactly is your point?

    • Greg Hall says:

      Reid is NFL old. He’s spent 14 years in the same job. Carrol and Harbaugh have been in the college game recently and understand that the game and its players are evolving quickly.

  7. The Smartman says:

    Oops! My bad. THROWING HAND!!!!!

  8. Barles James says:

    Was that 92 game the one played in a huge downpour, players skidding 5 yards at a time?

  9. Kyle says:

    Yes Barles, it was. We had the old astroturf and it was shining with the lights on. We were like 16 point favorites, and the 1st play of the game, Okoye fumbles and they run it back for a TD. Thankfully we woke up after that and pulled it out. Never seen a game in rain like that. I was not at the 98 Seattle game.

    • Will says:

      i was at both. I spent the 92 NE game in the old Arrowhead Club nice and dry. The ’98 Seattle game was worse because they made you get up and leave your seat when lightning was in the area. That’s when you get soaked. I don’t remember lighting during the NE game. There was another late 90′s game, San Diego maybe, that was played in a severe thunderstorm.

      • kcredsox says:

        Wasn’t it a pre-season game and got called early? Remember pulling up to my house from vacation and water was half way up my driveway, had just moved into the house a few months before.

      • kcredsox says:

        And a minivan was floating in the road in front of my house.

  10. Kyle Rohde says:

    Greg, I’m surprised you didn’t post the also-released pic showing the whole 810 staff posing with Andy Reid. It’s not surprising but a little silly for the whole station to do like that.

  11. JP says:

    I remember the ’92 game between Chiefs and Pats. It was raining and the stadium was about half empty. The Chiefs fell behind 14-0 early, and played very lackluster. They pulled out a 27-20 win, against an eventual 2-14 team. This led to the Pats getting Parcells and eventually Belicheck, and the rest is history.

    The Broncos now have their Lin Elliott game. So close… couldn’t happen to a nicer team. Manning is getting older, and the AFC West will catch up to them. I thought Baltimore’s D would be the achilles, I didn’t think it would be Peyton playing with gloves. I half expected his blankie would appear as well.

    Great weekend of playoff games. The Patriots was the only one that went as expected. I do expect them to dismantle the Ravens on Sunday. I still think the Ravens door is closing, however they could be a team of destiny. I’m surprised there’s not more scrutiny on Pete Carroll for not getting points on 2 trips inside the 20, especially disregarding a FG for a FB dive play. That cost the Seahawks the game. 49ers are the favorites over the Falcons, and I don’t think we should count Atlanta out just yet. They put a lot into winning this game, and barely pulled it out, so a very intriguing pair of championship games.

    • The Smartman says:

      Kaepernick goes down early with ink poisoning from his new tattoo. Smith comes in and plays FU Jim Harbaugh football. Falcons win. Ravens upset Pats after Brady breaks his wrist on Ray Lewis’ helmet. Superbowl plays to a tie after 12 over times. Pepsi buys additional add for 8 million dollars to crowd source the winner. Fans vote overwhelmingly for the first tie in SB history. Ray Lewis and Tony G both get to go out on top

  12. P says:

    Holy Shiite Kisla, get off your high horse. You report on a game dummy. If Alfred wants to wear a Donks jersey in the press box, who the hell cares? If he’s screaming and yelling and acting like a douche, fine, be all pissed but quit being a bitch.

    I will never ever get self righteous a-hole reporters. It’s like an actor who’s thinks what he/she does cures cancer or something.

  13. MightyMo says:

    I will not deny a certain pleasure at watching Peyton’s body fail him in the cold. But our new GM and coach will need to work overtime to win this division in the nest two years. Let’s hope they targeted Denver a week ago. The Bucs have all but advertised that Josh Freeman isn’t their guy, so I wonder what it would take to put him and Reid together? Or maybe Chase Daniel? Or both? Daniel has good wheels and was always accurate. Josh can wing the long ball. So long as it is not Matt Flynn (over valued, average arm and mobility).

  14. John Phog says:

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  15. Splitlog Quindaro says:

    I was totally cracking up when Pete Carroll was griping about something regarding the time-out… then the camera clearly shows him calling it. FYI… Follow him on Twitter… The dude tweets quite a lot.

    • The Smartman says:

      As most narcissists do.

    • harwood benjamin says:

      He wasn’t griping about the timeout. He was griping about the refs allowing the kicker to follow through on what turned out to be a practice kick. Carroll said later that the refs had told coaches of both teams before the game that in such a scenario, the kicker would not be allowed to kick once a timeout was called. They didn’t have an answer for what they would do if the practice kick happened–and as it turned out, when it did happen, they had no precedent or rule to do anything about it

  16. Phaedrus says:

    Well, at least now we know the reason the Chiefs suck. Players are drunk in the team meetings. Nice to know that Belcher was such a stand-up guy and did everything the coaches asked.

  17. dman says:

    So, it would be fair to say you tweet frequently as well?