OTC: KK Stills Burns Over Pioli Slight / Is His Ego Bad For 810′s Biz?

“The Chiefs are the Flying Wallendas without a net. I don’t think they know what they’re doing right now! The Chiefs have a gaping hole at nose tackle! They’ve got problems! There are teams out there making bold steps. The Chiefs are not making bold steps!
They’re talking about (Chiefs’) ticket takers not getting into the game for
free being a PR hit. You want to see a PR hit? Let the Chiefs not sign a nose
Kevin Kietzman, last week, prior to the Chiefs signing nose tackle Kelly Gregg, 810 AM
GH: 610 Sports and Nick Wright have been calling Kietzman a shill for Scott Pioli’s Chiefs, due to the contract his radio station shares with the team. If there was any truth to that criticism, it appears to have quickly dissipated as of last week’s lockout-ending press conference. This is the one where Kietzman asked Pioli if the Chiefs planned to
be more aggressive signing free agents with all the cap room they had
accumulated – and Pioli embarrassed KK with his answer in a very public way. Kietzman is still smoldering over the slight and he is not about to let it go. Read on.

“Over the last two days I’ve had  this rash of emails from people saying, ‘Awww! (Pioli) showed you! You big  blowhard! Loser! Awwraaa! Hack! Scott Pioli just put you in your place!’ I got  a couple of these and I thought, what are they talking about?”Kevin Kietzman, on his Thursday show  last week, 810 AM
GH: I believe Kietzman was alone on the  show during this rant. Both Danny Clinkscale and Todd Leabo were out at the  Chiefs’ opening practice session or elsewhere. When KK is alone, he often makes  decisions based on emotion that others might have prevented. I always enjoy KK’s  show more when he is alone.

“And then I get a few more (emails)  with more detail and it was that exchange we had in the (Chiefs’) news  conference a couple a days ago when I asked him about the Chiefs and the salary  cap.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman really wants us to believe  he had no idea his critics’ emails were commenting on his exchange with Pioli? Denial  is flowing strong between his ears.

“People love invading my Twitter  or emails with, ‘Ha ha, you’re a loser,’ that sort of thing. I get that. It  comes with the territory. If they’re really vile and filled with hatred or
something, I don’t respond back to them.  But if they’re just mean and there’s some truth to them, I’ll respond  back to them.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: I don’t know of a known member of the  media who doesn’t receive some hate correspondence at times. A controversial sports  talk radio host like KK has to expect his share. KK’s good friend, Jack Harry,  will blast away at athletes, coaches and fans on his Jack’s Smack segments on  KSHB but he has been known to fire back at those critics who dare call him out  in the same way. Both of these guys have made millions over their careers  covering sports. Why wouldn’t they focus on that fact rather than allow a few faceless  critics get to them?

“I wanted to take a few moments  in the show today – this will really help those of you who are really vile and  mean (in your emails) that I would not respond to – because I appreciate you  listening. Those of you who write those things, if you have that much venom in  you, WHY DO YOU LISTEN? I’ll never understand why you listen.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Probably for the same reason KK pays  attention to Nebraska football, Kansas basketball and the city of St. Louis.

“I’ll explain to you what  occurred in that exchange (with Pioli).”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Thank you, professor. Please  enlighten our darkened minds and souls…How ignorant of us to think we already  understood.

“The topic is salary cap and  (Pioli) is chasing his tail and he’s not answering the questions. He does his  best in a news conference that if you’re in the media, that your question even
has any validity. You can’t possibly be as smart as he is!”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman has brought this point up  about Pioli thinking he’s smarter than him and the media for three consecutive  days – and that’s with a weekend in between. Anybody else thinks Pioli scorched  him some KK red ass?

“It’s way different in a news  conference than sitting across from someone (one-on-one). I’ve never had an issue with that with Scott Pioli sitting across from him.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: In the span of a few sentences, KK has gone from not understanding what his emailers were talking about to telling us that Pioli never treats him like he did in the press conference when they are one-on-one.

“All I was trying to do was get a clarification on where the Chiefs were with their salary cap. He just double-talked. He said he wasn’t going to be specific (about the cap) but now
he is. Now I’m confused. He’s just trying to confuse everybody and confuse the
situation and move on to a more pleasant topic.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: And you are surprised by this tactic? Was KK expecting Pioli to rollover, toss on a turtleneck and pull a Clinkscale? Maybe KK does need to get out to a few more press conferences.

“So I asked him a couple of questions on this and the emailers just jumped all over me. ‘Awww he just shot you down!’ He shot me down? He wouldn’t answer it! So I said, ‘What you’re saying is you’re not going to have a significant increase in payroll this year,
correct?’ That’s a question. It was respectful. He didn’t like it. But we were
all confused! We were all sitting around trying to figure out what he was
talking about. We just wanted answers – because it’s my job to find out for
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Somebody send KK a fruit basket to thank him for doing his job for our benefit… or maybe a basket of Cookie Diet treats. Maybe the media should contribute, seeing as they were all just as “confused” as Kietzman.

“He turned to me and he said, ‘Did I say that?’ And this was, by so many peoples’ account, was Scott Pioli just getting up in my grill.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Whether this was a grill shot or not, it is apparent KK took it to be – no matter how much he feigns ignorance of the fact.

“I’ll tell you what I learned at a very young age – especially applicable in this business. It applies to your marriage, guys. It applies to your workplace.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Whoa! I could hear cars screeching to a stop all over Mission Hills for this one!

“When you answer a question with a question, you have no answer. That’s not putting someone in their place.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Okay, Kevin. Our bad. Pioli is the idiot. Not you. Got it.

“When a bully on a playground says, ‘You want to fight?’ and your response back to him is, ‘You want to fight?’ You really haven’t answered it, have you? (Pioli) didn’t have an
answer! He didn’t know what to say! That was really amazing work by Scott
Pioli. Thank you for all the emailers that are suggesting I got put in my
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman is getting into Carl Peterson-like waters here with Pioli. Does he really think comparing Pioli to a playground bully over this minor brush up is a good idea? Is this really a good way to treat your broadcast partner?

“When you get to the point where you don’t want to give out any information at all, you are starting to get to be like Carl Peterson.”
Soren Petro, on Pioli, 810 AM
GH: Petro might be the only member of the local media who still brings up King Carl’s name – and Petro does it almost daily.

“I think we were all deceived here (about the salary cap’s floor). The Chiefs had every opportunity last week — and were pressed on it!  – to say, ‘We don’t have to spend that this year.’ Don’t you think? I asked him point blank and he refused to say it.”
Kevin Kietzman, on his Monday show, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman was still ranting about this five days later – during at least two different segments. Glad he didn’t think Pioli planted a facial on him.

“It is hard to have an open microphone 20 hours a week and not have emotion come through and say things you wish you hadn’t said and not done stupid things.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Here is an idea – quit trying to stop saying emotional things on the radio. Heck, Bob Fescoe has built a career out of saying stupid stuff. It sure beats listening to you describe grilling a chicken atop a beer can.

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23 Responses to OTC: KK Stills Burns Over Pioli Slight / Is His Ego Bad For 810′s Biz?

  1. Brian (Indep., MO) says:

    Nobody can claim to know what motivatied Keitzaman to ask Scott Pioli the questions he did, but I think he must have caught wind of the criticism from Nick Wright. Neither Keitzman nor Wright were as agressive in their questioning as I would’ve liked.

    • Greg Hall says:

      I had no problem with KK’s questions to Pioli. They were fair and needed to be asked. But he has way overreacted to how Pioli responded. If Kietzman was that unhappy with Pioli’s answers, he should have continued to drill him with questions. Instead, we’ve been treated to three days of posttraumatic syndrome.

  2. The Word says:

    “Those of you who write those things, if you have that much venom in you, WHY DO YOU LISTEN? I’ll never understand why you listen.”

    I’ll answer that KK. Simply were want to hear what you’ll say next. It kind of reminds me of that scene from Private Parts.

    Researcher: The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for – are you ready for this? – an hour and twenty minutes.
    Pig Vomit: How can that be?
    Researcher: Answer most commonly given? “I want to see what he’ll say next.”
    Pig Vomit: Okay, fine. But what about the people who hate Stern?
    Researcher: Good point. The average Stern hater listens for two and a half hours a day.
    Pig Vomit: But… if they hate him, why do they listen?
    Researcher: Most common answer? “I want to see what he’ll say next.”

    • Brian (Indep., MO) says:

      Kietzman assumes haters tuned in to 810 just to listen to him. The press conference was on 610 later and is also on the Chiefs web site. Nobody had to listen to his show to hear this. I didn’t. Can’t stand the guy.

    • Greg Hall says:

      I Googled this exact passage from Private Parts and almost included it under that KK quote. Nice to know we were on the same wave here.

  3. 2peasIn-a-Puckett says:

    I cant stand KK or NW…but i listen to both more than i would like to admit. However, i believe NW has, (albiet slightly, due to the JW interview, and dare I say the comments from here and KCC) started to adjust and has been a bit more tolerable the past few weeks…hell, even entertaining sometimes. KK on the other hand it trying to pick up the fatty at last call…desperate. i have long thought that he is turning into Fortune right before our very ears. It may be a long shot, but if entercom could ever get the Border Patrol sans Bukaty, from 810, i dont think i would ever have a reason to switch to 810. Hell, im too drunk after Chiefs games to listen to postgame anyway, so 810 has nothing for me after 10am….

  4. Fake Ned Yost says:


    FNY: I don’t. Anymore. True to my word, I haven’t listened in over a month. Judging by the ratings, it looks like I’m not the only one…

    • Greg Hall says:

      The July book will be out toward the middle of August and the trends show KK nudging back into the lead. Wright missing the first three or four days of Chiefs camp will not help his numbers.

  5. The Independent Rage says:

    Receiving marital advice from KK would be a bit like looking to Jonah Hex for pointers on the best way to remove a conspicuous facial mark. Take that counseling at your own damn risk.

    KK wonders why people who hate him listen to him, and I do too. I think the reason is Howard Cosell syndrome. But still doesn’t mean I understand it. I rarely listen to the pompous blowhards KK and Nick Wright because I’m like that mean-ass PE teacher in Queens — Can’t-Stanz-Em.

    KK and Jack Harry have made “millions” during their careers? Really that much? If so, looks like I definitely picked the wrong week to start sniffing glue.

    • PV Pathfinder says:

      “looks like I definitely picked the wrong week to start sniffing glue.”

      pure. fucking. gold.

      • The Independent Rage says:

        I mean, what do all the myriad sidekicks make, hundreds of thousands? Jeezal peezal. I’m in the wrong racket.

    • renton says:

      Jack’s been working in this business roughly since Apollo. Even a five-figure salary works out to several million over 40 years.

      Keitzman has clearly been in 6-figure range with his stake in the company.

      No one is saying these two are Bill Gates, but it’s not unrealistic to say “millions” when you’re talking about people working here so long.

  6. PV Pathfinder says:

    3 years ago the words “Patriot Way” were tattooed on the lips of every sports media outlet in town. Every ball in the sack was tingly over the prospect of a new sheriff in town that was going to right the ship. What the fuck were people thinking was going to happen? Pioli drops out of the media spotlight and Haley behaves in his press conferences like he’s rather be getting a root canal. Was no one here in Fly Over Country paying any attention to the Patriots during the Super Bowl years? It’s beyond lame for KK, Mad Jack and the other fuck sticks to complain about vague press conferences and arrogance, because it is THE PATRIOT WAY. Let me know next time Bill Belichick spends half an hour with the New England media, filling them in on how they plan to attack the salary cap. Besides, 810 has had multiple chances to corner The Clark on this and dropped the ball. If it was the print media, KK would have pulled one of the nails out of his own cross and nailed a beat writer to a tree with it.

  7. Ptolemy says:

    KK is playing the Cosell card clearly. He was without a hot topic for the day, so his hate email became the topic du-jour.

    While it wasn’t compelling enough to draw me away from the political talk realm, it is a damn sight better than listening to Don Fortune try to react to GH’s then-Star OTC columns by trying to parody them with a feature he called something like, “Let’s See What Sam Funnypants Has to Say About My Show!” Those segments were bad enough to make even me listen to Nick Wright.

  8. Ritt says:

    Tuning to 810 to hear the KK segment has become a bit of a process…… I am never quite sure “which” identity will prevail; The talent is evident when he plans his monologue and sticks to the script, but all too often, the “inner victim” takes over and listeners are subjected to rants that would make Freud cringe. It has been painful for several years now listening to the artificial guffaws (accompanied by slamming hand on desk), the ass-kissing questions of brass, and the Danny banter, which leaves listeners in the lurch, and takes off for the serene meadows of Falcon Ridge. The only programming that prevents KK from being Don Fortune is the lack of “Relax the Back” spots. They’re coming.

  9. Anfo says:

    KK = thin skin and tiny dick

  10. nick says:

    I’ve not listened hardly at all to KK’s show this summer, so thanks Greg for the entertaining recap.

    Ritt’s right on. I tuned KK out for most of King Carl’s later years ’cause it was SO clear KK didn’t like the guy. It skewed everything that came out of his mouth about the Chiefs. He does the same thing with Kansas athletics for the most part. He despised Mangino and Perkins. And Roy Williams clearly rubbed KK the wrong way. Yet, he has orgasms on air while talking with Bill Snyder, Frank Martin and Gary Pinkel.

    Off subject, but Bob Fescoe’s interview this morning with George Brett was GREAT. There’s been recent MLB incidents that have created discussions about baseball’s “code” or how teams/players should retaliate. Brett was VERY against throwing at a player’s head (like happened to Butler), but was very in favor of teams taking care of business with aggressiveness. Brett illuminated the subject better than anything I’ve read or heard in the past couple weeks. He told a story of how watching a couple opposing players take out the Royals shortstop and 2nd baseman on extra-hard slides made him want to stand up for his teammates. So when on 1st base later in the game, Brett went hard into 2nd where he broke his shoulder and broke the 2nd baseman’s leg. Brett said he missed 6 weeks, and the other team’s 2nd baseman missed the season and never played in the pros again.

    • Cliffy says:

      KK would have slobbered all over Roy and Mangina too if they would have gone on the air with him. Had nothing to do with KU. He readily takes his jabs at MU — just not when he’s interviewing Pinkel.

      Brett’s interviews are the only thing worth tuning in for on Fescoe’s show and even those are hit and miss. Brett will not receive any MENSA invitations.

      One thing you absolutely DO NOT do is publicly embarrass KK. Dude loses his emotional balance big time (not that it’s ever fully there).

    • Java Man says:

      “Brett went hard into 2nd where he broke his shoulder and broke the 2nd baseman’s leg.”

      Bored at work? Check.

      Tim Norbrook SS with the Brewers. 4/30/78

    • Greg Hall says:

      Brett can be very good on radio. He is totally unscripted and often speaks before considering the implications of his words. The story about him taking out the no-name 2nd baseman is a good example of his thought process. George is proud he defended his teammate’s honor by breaking a never-to-be-heard-of-again infielder. But he cost himself and the Royals his HOF services for 6 months! He crushed an ant by blowing up the house.

  11. nick says:

    Brett rattled off a few quick stories and players from years ago…I may have mis-typed or mis-heard.