OTC: Lions Stomp Chiefs 48-3 / Then Detroit’s GM Shuns Pioli’s Postgame Handshake

“We are not going back to the old Kansas City Chiefs. That’s something I refuse to do. I put that on me. … That’s our word: We will not go back to the old Chiefs. We’ve got to do whatever we can to turn this around.”
Brandon Flowers, Chiefs DB, after the Chiefs were drilled 48-3 by Detroit to start the season 0-2, Kansas City Star
GH: The inept play of the 2011 Chiefs is not reminiscent of the “old Chiefs.” Starting the season by being outscored 89-10 is not reminiscent of any former Chiefs’ team. This band of brothers is heading toward a Chiefs’ season not even Frank “Crash” Gansz would find

“This is a disaster beyond belief!”
Richard Baldinger, Metro Sports

“With precisely eight minutes, five seconds left in the first quarter, the Chiefs’ season went from disappointing to hopeless. … The Chiefs got a peek at the post-Charles world against the Lions and it was decidedly hideous.”
Adam Teicher, on Jamaal Charles season-ending knee injury, Kansas City Star

“It always hurts when you lose a player but we feel like we have a lot of depth at that position.”
Ryan Lilja, Chiefs offensive guard, on how the Chiefs will cope with Charles’ injury, 810 AM
GH: Has Lilja peaked into the Chiefs’ huddle since Charles went down? Thomas Jones’ biggest impact on this team will be his fight with Jonathan Baldwin that has him sidelined the last five weeks. Is Tony Temple in shape? I’m only half kidding.

“I know Todd Haley has to say this but they’re not just 0-2 in their first two games. They got annihilated! Something you just don’t see happening in the NFL. This is like a bad college team!”
Danny Clinkscale, 810 AM
GH: The Chiefs are headed to becoming the nightly joke on Letterman and Leno. Getting rolled by 40 every Sunday makes you the laughing stock of the NFL. Scott Todd look absolutely clueless and the rest of the NFL appear very happy to pour it on these two know-it-alls. Read on.

“Not only did the Lions send the woeful Kansas City Chiefs packing with a 48-3 boot in the rear, but general manager Martin Mayhew waved away the Chiefs’ Scott Pioli’s attempt to bury the hatchet just moments after the game. It was Pioli who accused the Lions of tampering before the 2010 season. As the two general managers approached the same elevator at the end of the game Sunday, Pioli called out to Mayhew and extended his right
hand. Mayhew shook his head and turned his back on Pioli. Bygones are certainly
not bygones.”
Chris McCosky, The Detroit News
GH: Tampering accusations and Haley shaking his finger in the face of NFL head coaches who dare run up the score on his Chiefs. This Duo of Dumb have turned the NFL against them and their Chiefs. And it is playing out loudly on scoreboards across the league every Sunday.

“We weren’t trying to do anything except win a game.”
Jim Swartz, Lions head coach, when asked about the Lions’ aggressive offensive play calling late in the game despite the big lead, The Detroit News

“This is the NFL. If you want sympathy, go into charity work. They’re not gonna back off. The Chiefs don’t like it but this is pro football. … They’re giving you a chance to man up and stop them.”
Randy Cross, on the Lions continuing to play aggressively on offense through the fourth quarter, CBS

“I hate to use the word ‘given up,’ but they just basically got run over. That really, really concerns me.”
Jack Harry, 810 AM
GH: The question of whether or not the Chiefs quit has been broached for the second week in a row – and it’s only the second week of the season. Coaches who have teams that quit get fired. But can the injuries to key players used as an excuse to keep Haley for another season? I expect Pioli to try and play the bad-luck-injury card on Haley’s behalf once the heat gets turned up to an ass-scorching setting.

“Injuries are part of the NFL. They’re gonna happen.”
Todd Haley, on the Chiefs losing Jamaal Charles in the first quarter of the game in Detroit, Fox 4

“I see a lot of tension. All of us are watching these games and every single Sunday, we don’t see the unity on the sidelines. We don’t see the communication on the sidelines. We see people yelling at each other. Cassel yelling at receivers. Coaches yelling at coaches. All these things that do not create that unified front.”
Danan Hughes, Metro Sports
GH: Teams that get pounded by 40 every week should have some tension on the sideline, in the locker room and in meetings!

“This is what happens when you call those BS (team) meetings! I never went to ‘em! They’ve gotten off course.”
Richard Baldinger, on the Chiefs’ players calling a players-only meeting last Monday following the loss to Buffalo, Metro Sports

“I spent $2,000 on my Chiefs’ season tickets out there (at Arrowhead). I sit in an old-time section, 16th row on the visitors’ side. I can tell you the talk out there amongst the fans is not good. I’m thinking about dumping all of my tickets to the Green Bay fans, the
Steelers’ fans and the Chargers’ fans just to get whatever money I can out of them.”
Caller to Chiefs’ postgame show, 810 AM
GH: Here is why Haley will eventually get canned. Empty seats. Ironic that the fact the Chiefs will play good teams during the second half of the season may keep Arrowhead from looking empty. It just won’t look red.

“This is an absolute train wreck!”
Brad Porter, Metro Sports

“You see other organizations talking about the Super Bowl, we have an organization that jut talks about the playoffs.”
Danan Hughes, Metro Sports
GH: Playoffs? Playoffs? Somebody get Jim Mora here to fill in for Haley’s next presser.

“You could put Andrew Luck on this team and their still not going to be a very good football team. … Who’s are number two, three and four receiver? You still haven’t solved that problem.”
Richard Baldinger, on the surge to “Suck For LucK” in an effort for the Chiefs to draft the Stanford quarterback with the first pick in 2012, KCTV 5

“(Cassel) shouldn’t try and fit (his passes) into a Stafford-sized window. He doesn’t have that kind of arm. A Cassel window is a residential window.”
Randy Cross, after Cassel’s secondinterception, CBS
GH: What did Scott Pioli see in Matt Cassel that convinced him Cassel is worth $60 million as an NFL quarterback? Cassel is a good leader and a tough guy but he just doesn’t have an NFL arm. It was comical to watch him try and match throws with the laser-like wing of Matt Stafford. Cassel is a good guy but he needs more help than The Clarks are willing to buy to be a winner in this league.

“You better be embarrassed why you don’t catch a pass like that!”
Randy Cross, as yet another pass went off the fingers of Dwayne Bowe in the fourth quarter, CBS
GH: Bowe is not the Chiefs most explosive offensive weapon. He does not appear to care.

“We have to make … a bunch of changes here in what we’re doing in order to have a chance to be ready to play this week against San Diego on the road.”
Todd Haley, Kansas City Star
GH: Not the speech you are looking for from your head coach after week two. It appears the bold, brash know-it-all of the preseason has been replaced by the pink-jacket-wearing dough boy who has no idea where to begin to fix the mess he and Pioli have made.

“Watching (Chiefs’ game) at my mom’s. She doesn’t have a radio. 15 yrs on 810… Wonder if she has ever listened. Humbled.”
Kevin Kietzman, Twitter
GH: If you get her a Twitter account I’m sure Nick Wright can hook her up with a link to your podcast, Kevin.

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Software guy who has been writing my Off The Couch column in KC newspapers, publications and websites since 1994. Has been bounced from some of the finest media establishments this side of State Line Road. Dad first and everything else second...and there are a lot of everything elses.

58 Responses to OTC: Lions Stomp Chiefs 48-3 / Then Detroit’s GM Shuns Pioli’s Postgame Handshake

  1. The Word says:

    I miss Whitlock during football season…

    6. Apparently Lions general manager Martin Mayhew knows why I use the catchy nickname “Egoli” when referring to Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli.

    After curb-stomping the Chiefs 48-3, Mayhew declined to shake Egoli’s hand. Egoli accused the Lions and defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham of tampering in 2010. I have no clue whether the Lions tampered with Chiefs players.

    I do know Egoli has the biggest ego in professional football. I do know he’s rather fond of insinuating he was the key to the Patriots dynasty. I do know that I sat through a three-hour private dinner in which he wouldn’t allow coach Todd Haley to speak. I do know at the same dinner with Kansas City Star reporters and yours truly he lectured, ranted and screamed about how the local media needed to get on board with his program.

    I do know I’m taking delight in his two-week, 89-10 comeuppance.

    Yes, Todd Haley is primarily to blame for the Chiefs’ lack of preparedness. But Egoli brings out the worst in Haley, who is embarrassingly insecure about his background as a golfer. Egoli and Haley form the worst GM-coach combination in football. Haley was hired to be Egoli’s puppet.

    • Doodoo says:

      Greg, Whitlock’s assertions of what Pioli said to Star reporters at a private dinner is surprising. I had no clue this had even occurred. Try to follow up with other Star folks and get a further scoop of what transpired. To rant and lecture at a 3-hour dinner, and not let your HC speak? What the hell?

    • Merle Tagladucci says:

      Pioli’s smugness and thinly veiled condescension toward the KC media were on display from early on in his arrival to town and I remember thinking well, when you come here from a winner like New England, you’ve probably earned the right to be a little arrogant. Ah but when you leave Belichick and Brady behind and that Patriot magic doesn’t follow you to town, then the losses, mistakes, mis-hires and misfires start piling up after only 2.2 seasons, your asscheeks get placed directly above the flame.

      Pioli thought he could come to town, bring in the old New England coordinators, the old New England backup QB (give him $64 million), snap his fingers and make this the Kansas City Patriots. Instead, he’s produced Blues Brothers 2000. Instead of Brady (Belushi) he brought along Cassel (John Goodman) and a kid in over his head – Haley (Buster). Currently we’re about 1/3 of the way through the movie and half the patrons have already walked out.

  2. The KC Eye says:

    It’s interesting most writers/bloggers are pinpointing either Pioli OR Haley (or Hunt) as the culprit here. I say blame ‘em all.

    Check out my blog on it here.

  3. Eric W. says:

    The Chiefs are a non story. The real issue that’s about to send KC into a deep dark black sports hole is the breakup of the Big 12. KC, at it’s core is a college town. The last bastion of the glorious old Big 8, which is the Big 12 tournament in KC, is about to disappear. When that goes, what does KC have left? KU, KSU, and MU are all destined to play in different conferences.

  4. Rick says:

    Please I know its bad. But a voice of reason. We have 2 1000 YARD RUSHERS left on the team. One of them may be still capable. The other clearly is not. I said before the season started that I just had a funny feeling Jackie Battle would have an impact. We’re about to see if that’s the case. Assuming he is able to hold onto the ball. ALL IS NOT LOST.

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