OTC: August Is Hot When It Comes To Football Optimism For Both MU & KSU

“Our long national nightmare of a baseball-only summer is over starting next week.”
Danny Parkins, 610 AM
GH: You might think this an odd thing for the afternoon-drive headline host of the Royals’ flagship radio station to make during August with the hometown nine playing winning baseball for the first time in a decade. I did. But like Nick Wright before him, Danny Parkins seems to be an NFL and NBA kind of guy who simply tolerates what my old football coach called “kitten ball.”

“I think by the end of September, Missouri might be a team we are talking about that might be one of the most improved teams in the country – if they stay healthy. I think at the very least they get to a bowl game this year. It wouldn’t surprise me at all with the respect I have for Gary Pinkel if they have a shot to surprise some people and upset some people in the SEC.”
Kirk Herbstreit, ESPN college football analyst, 810 AM
GH: August is the time of the year when every football program thinks lofty thoughts. Mizzou and K-State kickoff their seasons this weekend and both fan bases expect good things. Some expect even ridiculous things. But August is the time to dream. Read on for some real doozies.

“Missouri could score 40 on Florida in a heartbeat. I didn’t say they will. I said they can.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: KK is always much better when he is making predictions about a team he likes. He’s never been known to be a great fan of Mizzou so he hedges his comments. That doesn’t make for good radio. 

“(Dorial Green-Beckham) has Megatron potential.”
TJ Carpenter, comparing DGB to the Lions Calvin Johnson, 810 AM
GH: Now THAT is a bold statement from the kid from Arkansas!

“I’ll take (DGB) right now as the second best receiver on the Chiefs.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: This one sounds bold until you take a look at the Chiefs wide-receiver corps.

“I think (DGB) could be good but this assumption that (Missouri) has an NFL wide receiver is ridiculous!  … I need performance. I don’t need slather.”
Danny Clinkscale, 810 AM
GH: Clink’s pessimism is justified. DGB has not yet shown he deserves the hype he received as a freshman in the SEC. I have a feeling that is going to change as he begins his sophomore season with the Tigers and a senior quarterback.

“That’s on pay-per-view, which sucks.”
Carrington Harrison, on the Murray State/Mizzou game being available only on pay-per-view, 610 AM
GH: I think this is a marketing blunder by Mike Alden and Mizzou. They need to energize their fan base early this season to sell tickets and mobilize their fans. A PPV opener against a dog opponent is just a dumb move for an institution of higher learning.

“I would say seven is the absolute most games MU can win this season. Because with James Franklin, I don’t think you can trust the guy. You can almost bank that at least one game, James Franklin’s not going to be able to play.”
Carrington Harrison, 610 AM

“I think (Mizzou’s backup quarterback Maty Mauk) is capable of making plays that no other quarterback on the roster can make. I think he tries to make plays that no other quarterback on the roster can make. Sometimes that leads to him trying to put a ball where he shouldn’t try to. I think James Franklin won the (starting quarterback) job largely because he did a better job of hanging onto the football.”
Gabe DeArmond, 810 AM
GH: Mauk has four years of eligibility left after sitting out as a redshirt last season. I can’t wait to see if he is the second coming of Chase Daniel. But waiting until next season might be the best thing for the Tigers.

“We’re probably not going to find out before week four or five (if Henry Josey is the same running back he was before his devastating knee injury in 2011). Everybody says he is.”
Gabe DeArmond, 810 AM
GH: Josey was Jamaal Charles-like good in 2011 before he got his knee destroyed. If he is close to that, Mizzou is going to be very, very fun to follow.

“If Jeremy Macklin came to Missouri today, I think there’s a chance he’s a cornerback.”
Gabe DeArmond, saying the SEC chooses to play their best skill people on defense rather than offense like the Big 12, 810 AM
GH: I don’t believe this SEC hype – although DeArmond is far from the only one who believes it. Playing corner and playing wide receiver takes two different skill sets. It’s the difference between the mentality of a defensive player and an offensive player. Most athletes are either one or the other.  

“We’ve got some guys who can make some plays. I think we can be a good offensive team. … I think we’ve got some (defensive) players who are going to play at a whole different level.”
Gary Pinkel, Fox Sports
GH: Pinkel sounds damn optimistic to me – far more than he is usually. Is that the pressure of having to win this season or does he think his second go at the SEC is going to be a lot more fun? Buckle your chin straps and let’s get it on!

“I say possibly four (K-State offensive lineman will play in the NFL). … On B.J. (Finney), if not the Rimington (Trophy) this year then next year for sure.”
Nick Leckey, when asked by The Border Patrol how many current K-State linemen he projects to be playing in the NFL, 810 AM
GH: You cannot hardly find a more optimistic viewpoint about Kansas State than that of Leckey. Read on.  

“Russell Wilson. I do. I really do. That leader in the pocket. Absolutely.”
Nick Leckey, former KSU and NFL offensive lineman, when asked what he expects from Kansas State’s juco transfer quarterback, Jake Waters, 810 AM
GH: Damn! Is Leckey angling to be the next KSU athletic director?

“No. I don’t want to say I am and I don’t want to say I’m not.”
Tyler Lockett, K-State wide receiver, when asked by The Drive if he is a better than his dad who also played at K-State, 610 AM
GH: I think his dad, Kevin, already declared Tyler better than him. One thing’s for sure, Tyler is explosive and dangerous from anywhere on the field with a football in his hands.

“K-State kids are just the best! I love K-State! They have nice respectable kids! I just love their football program!”
Carrington Harrison, after interviewing Tyler Lockett, 610 AM
GH: And this from a Missouri guy.

“K-State has a real game this week (against North Dakota State). K-State could lose! No one is picking K-State to lose but I’m just saying the scenario exists for an upset.”
Carrington Harrison, 610 AM
GH: Not all agree with CDot…

“This shouldn’t be much of a game.”
Gary Barnett, CFB color analyst, when asked about the NDS / Kansas State game Friday in Manhattan, 810 AM

“I think TCU is the favorite to win the Big 12 this year. I really do.”
Gary Barnett, 810 AM
GH: Barnett then said about a minute or so later that he didn’t know who would win the Big 12 and that there are five teams that have about an equal chance. I guess that’s why they play the games.

“I think you’re going to see more people at that (Cowboys/Chiefs home opener at Arrowhead) than you’ve seen at Arrowhead in the last five years. I think it could be a sellout.”
Mark Donovan, president, 810 AM
GH: Arrowhead will look good again with a sellout. It has been too long.

“I’ll say this about the traffic last week (before the 49ers preseason game). As an organization, we failed our fans.”
Mark Donovan, Chiefs president, 810 AM
GH: How great is it to hear the Chiefs president be accountable for an organizational screw up? Go Chiefs!

“The best way to get into Arrowhead on a Sunday is to go in about 11:40. Everybody’s already in.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: I would not take this chance if I were you…or if you like tailgating.

“We’re not real guest heavy on this show. I think most people tune in to listen to us.”
Bob Fescoe, on his and Josh Klingler’s popularity with their morning-drive audience, 610 AM
GH: I often like to end my OTC column with a light or entertaining note. This quote seemed to fit.

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18 Responses to OTC: August Is Hot When It Comes To Football Optimism For Both MU & KSU

  1. chuckart says:

    It’s great that Donovan says the Chiefs failed their fans but what does that really mean? I took my three boys to that game and we spent nearly 2 hours trying to get from Eastwood Trafficway into our seats. They don’t want to go back. I don’t get my money back spent for tickets and parking.
    My young boys wanted to go home about 9:30. School started that week and they were worn out. I got to see the final 2 minutes of the first half and about 7 minutes of game play in the second half. Screw the Chiefs, if they cared about their fans they wouldn’t have had this issue to begin with.

    • Kyle Rohde says:

      I happened to be driving down 435 South right when this nightmare was happening, but I don’t remember seeing any coverage about why it happened; what did the Chiefs say was the culprit?

      That day, I saw traffic on 435S backed up almost to World’s of Fun (no hyperbole) and on 435N all the way down to 87th Street. I’m just glad I wasn’t going the direction the traffic was!

      I’m heading out to Arrowhead tonight and not going anywhere near the highways – city streets all the way from downtown to the stadium. Hoping it’s not nearly as bad!

  2. Jim says:

    KK..the King Dbag of reverse psychology. He’s been peddling MU’s football schedule all summer is WAAAAY easier than it was last year. If they win a bunch of games, he gets to say “I told you so.” If they don’t, he gets to say how bad they were with an easy schedule. Dude is so transparent he only has one side.

  3. Orphan of the Road says:

    The only difference between skill sets need for defensive back or receiver is a receiver has to catch the ball.

    Except for that difference, a defensive back does everything a receiver does, only backwards. Sort of Fred & Ginger-thing.

    • Big D in the O says:

      Except the WR knows where he is going before he does it. The defender has to react. While Ginger is indeed in heels she also knows where Fred is going to go since they surely practiced as a team prior to production.

  4. JP says:

    “We’re not real guest heavy on this show. I think most people tune in to listen to us.”
    Bob Fescoe, on his and Josh Klingler’s popularity with their morning-drive audience, 610 AM

    It’s funny, I wish Fescoe had more guests on his show, he’s never going to be mistaken for a comedian. If anything, I wish there were less guests on the Border Patrol, because I think SSJ is a radio natural and his takes are usually pretty funny. Along with the interchange with Nate, Jake and Aaron.

    • Kyle Rohde says:

      And my favorite part of the local radio shows is when they have the national/regional guys on, especially Petro’s 2 minute drill. The Chiefs/Royals coverage is so saturated already that I just have no interest in hearing more. Like the morning of the Baldwin trade, the Border Patrol spent the first freakin’ hour of their show (25%!) talking about it. Give me a break – even if I was that guy with the X Factor hat at Arrowhead, I’d still be bored by that.

      • Steve says:

        Just goes to show it’s hard to please everyone. Personally, I’m not a fan at all of the 2-minute drill Petro does. If that’s on I turn the channel. But I do get where you are coming from with the excessive time spent talking about the Baldwin trade. When two teams trade worthless players nobody should talk that much about it. The biggest takeaway from Baldwin just continues to show how big of a failure Pioli was as a GM and he’s not here anymore, so who cares?

        I think a lot of it is people mainly just want to hear the hosts talk about their teams. The Royals are my favorite team, so if that’s the topic I’m not turning the channel, even if it’s Spring Training. Same goes for most MIzzou stuff. But if they talk about K-State or KU I don’t really care at all, even when Mizzou was in the Big 12. Maybe I’m alone in that opinion.

  5. Stephen says:

    After reading that quote from Danny Parkins, I’m glad I don’t waste my time listening to 610. As a radio talk show host, he should let the low-IQ sports fan make the baseball-hating remarks, and stick to real sports talk.

    Now if KK would just trade spots with Josh Vernier and the Royals back on 810, I would never have to switch stations.

  6. chuck says:

    At this point, Geno Smith is not even approaching Quincy Carter territory.

    If we have to wait until Geno has a bombfest, KK will never answer for his bombast.

    His only sponsor, Gino’s Pizza has a Sunday Special just for Kevin. Heat Lovers Special. The only ingredient is sausage and Rex thinks it is best served cold, covered in pink slips.

  7. Fred Flintstone says:

    If Arrowhead is full, you can bet that it is, in large part, to the Green Bay Packer fan’s attending.

  8. Fred Flintstone says:

    I of course meant Cowboy fans….got Green Bay on my mind……

  9. Ultimate Dude says:

    It is correct that the SEC puts its best talent on defense. I don’t think Maclin is a corner though unless he just has butter fingers when he gets on campus. A guy with that kind of speed and hands has to play WR. I always loved playing both ways. I also loved being moved around on both sides of the ball. Played WR and TE then DE and SS. It was a blast.

    I’ve got Mizzou going 7-5. I believe it’s very possible they could finish better though.

    Did Carrington confuse KSU with ku on the upset by NDS remark? He had to be speaking tongue in cheek.

    The Big 12 may be at its weakest point as a football conference since its inception. It should mirror the basketball slate with one team (OSU) running away from the rest of the scrubs.

    Kietzman waits til 11:40 to go into Arrowhead so he isn’t blasted with full beer cans and leftovers. He’s not dumb enough to risk his personal safety upon entering his plush suite.

    Danny Parkins does in fact have a lot in common with Nick Wright besides attending Syracuse. Both think college football doesn’t begin until week 5 after most non-con matchups are played. Wright actually said this on the air about 3 years ago. Sports savvy.

    @UltimateDude79

  10. Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

    Until Missouri gets some real weight and muscle down in the trenches on both sides of the ball, they will continue to get prison raped in the SEC against anyone other than Kentucky.

  11. Observer says:

    I would be careful making assumptions about the sophistication of play at the D1 or NFL levels.

    You’ll never convince me the skill sets are the same for corresponding positions, especially wide receiver vs. corner. For this very reason we see amazing D1 players struggling to make the 53-man cut at the NFL level. The reads for a receiver and the reads for a corner are vastly different while the physical skill sets also are different. These athletes are not interchangeable. Can one athlete play both positions? Sure! But that’s not proof that the skill sets are the same. It just means you have a gifted athlete. A corner is not simply trying to mirror what a wide receiver is doing. That’s not even an oversimplification, that’s simply ignorance of what’s going on out there.

    I wouldn’t generalize about the “mentality” factor, either. Though a fullback and inside linebacker might be of a similar mindset, they may also be as far apart as the difference between a slot receiver and a strong safety. Do you think Wes Welker is trying to take the safety’s head off after he catches the ball? Welker has successfully developed his craft to avoid as much contact as possible while his counterpart, whether he be an outside linebacker or strong safety, is looking to physically “send him a message” at any opportunity. Yet, there have been some special running backs who believed that delivering a blow was the better part of their repertoire with the juke, shoulder shift, hip throw their last choices. Their careers are usually shorter, but men such as Earl Campbell were so much fun to watch bowl over linemen and linebackers and then outrun safeties. Thus, there’s no generalizing about mentality.

    To DeArmond’s point of identifying a “better” athlete and channeling them into offence or defense, I think that’s what’s happening. I don’t know that it’s happening consciously everywhere, but it does happen. In large high school programs, coaches make assessments based on many things, but most importantly, the assessment is made on what style or scheme of football the staff advocates in the context of their competition. Some places focus on defense, other schools focus on offense – where the focus is, there most of the best athletes go.

    The point about the SEC can be reinforced if we look back to the 1990s when the Big 8 was falling behind the times and the big lumbering offenses were getting eaten up by the fast, all-around athletes of Miami, Florida or Florida State. One contending Big 8 school I’m familiar with decided that it was no longer going to build its team to win the conference, it was going to build its team to win the national championship and recruit and develop athletes, in this case, to compete with the speed of teams they would meet in a Florida bowl game, not the teams of their conference. The result was three national championships in five years. If one single decision could ever be pointed to as a major reason for success for a D1 program, I believe that was one.