OTC: Chiefs 8-0 Record Continues To Be Less Than Impressive To Some NFL Experts

“This (Chiefs) team can’t score. Don’t get me wrong, this team’s defense is very, very good. I love their defense. Offensively, they’re limited. This is an offensive league now. You better be able to score. Eventually, it’s not all going to go right (for the Chiefs) and that’s when they’re going to have problems. It’s not sustainable. But they’ve earned it, they’re 8-0. But watch out in Buffalo this week.”
Pete Prisco, NFL writer for CBSsports.com, in an interview with Bob Fescoe, 610 AM
GH: Prisco got Chiefs’ fans attention when he tweeted that the Chiefs might be the worst 8-0 team he’s seen. Fescoe might not be the brightest bulb on the tree but he knows a good guest when he hears one bash the hometown Chiefs. Read on.

“I think Denver’s the best team in the AFC and they might be the best team in the NFL. New England is struggling right now but in the end they are going to be the Patriots.”
Pete Prisco, 610 AM
GH: Fescoe challenged Prisco on his high rankings of both the Broncos and Pats, noting that both teams appear to have just as many flaws as the offensively-challenged Chiefs. Prisco stumbled with his response that sounded a lot like, “Yeah, but Manning and Brady have always been winners and they’ll be the teams to beat in the end.” Maybe. But neither have the defense the Chiefs have displayed so far this season.

“The most common words on the text line (from listeners about Prisco) are ‘idiot,’ sucks,’ and ‘get him off my radio.’”
Josh Klingler, 610 AM

“By the way, Chiefs fans – I applaud you for your passion. Ever since I sent out that tweet (saying the Chiefs were the worst undefeated team), I’ve got nothing but backlash.”
Pete Prisco, 610 AM
GH: Here’s hoping that Chiefs fans have a ninth reason to light up Prisco’s Twitter account late Sunday afternoon.

“Yeah it is, obviously. Any time you get the laces in as a kicker you notice it. You might have that lapse of concentration for a second. If the laces are back and it grabs your foot, you don’t stroke it just perfectly. That’s a tough deal man.”
Ryan Succop, when asked by Danny Parkins if it’s a big deal that MU’s placekicker Andrew Baggett’s holder was not able to adjust the placement of the ball so that the laces were pointing away from him, 610 AM
GH: Mizzou gets a chance to move beyond that stunning homecoming double-overtime loss to South Carolina when they take on Tennessee at home Saturday at 6:00 PM (CT) on ESPN. Do they roll the Vols and get the Tiger Train back on track or will the USC hangover linger?

“I think Missouri’s going to win this (Tennessee) game very comfortably.”
Jack Harry, 810 AM

“My guess is James Franklin is available in this (Tennessee) game.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM

“If James Franklin is healthy (last Saturday), they pound South Carolina. … If he was throwing it on Sunday, he needs to be available on Saturday (against Tennessee). I thought this was the mighty SEC and every game was a war.  You sound so cavalier in saying you think Missouri is going to beat Tennessee even without James Franklin.”
Kevin Kietzman, in a conversation with Jack Harry, 810 AM
GH: I don’t understand Kietzman continuing to state that Franklin should be back in the starting line-up after missing only two weeks after injuring his throwing shoulder. He went so far this week as saying he had spoken to a doctor who assured him Missouri was exaggerating how long Franklin would be out. Just remember that Kietzman has to fill 20 hours of live radio each week and sometimes he isn’t quite as picky as we might like when it comes to content.

“(Missouri) just needs to block out this narrative that their dream season has come crashing down because it hasn’t.”
Will Harris, ESPN college football insider, 810 AM

“Missouri should not have to sweat Nebraska (in recruiting) now, should they? When you lose to Minnesota… Missouri should be able to out-recruit them, right?”
Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: Nebraska has a non-binding commitment from maybe the best player in Missouri this year in Lee’s Summit West’s fabulous Monte Harrison – who many believe will opt for MLB like Bubba Starling did. Al Wallace reported on WDAF Fox 4 this week that Harrison might be cooling on his love for the Cornhuskers. Wallace reported that Missouri is back in the hunt for Harrison’s commitment.

“Right now there are a lot of kids concerned with the situation at Nebraska. I think it’s going to be interesting to see what happens up there. Kids are very interested what’s going to happen up there just like they are at Kansas State. I’ve talked to some seniors and there’s some uncertainty (about Bill Snyder). He may retire the day after the season. What he’s been able to do is absolutely unbelievable but you have to wonder how much longer he can do it.”
Randy Withers, of Scout.com, 810 AM
GH: Bo Pelini will almost need to win out and get Nebraska to the Big Ten’s title game to save his job. Sound harsh? I think it has become that serious for the embarrassing act that is Pelini. But Snyder is another story. He’s as loved at K-State as the color purple. Is he about to retire yet again? I don’t see Snyder ever leaving of his own accord. Not until a power higher than an AD calls his number.

“Where is Charlie Weis at right now? He just seems so comfortable in his own skin for a guy who can’t win a game!”
Danny Clinkscale, while talking to the Lawrence Journal-World’s Tom Keegan, 810 AM

“(Weis) is very thick-skinned about the way he’s covered. I think he’s very thick skinned. But I do think it’s killing him. It’s got to be killing him!”
Tom Keegan, columnist for KUSports.com, 810 AM
GH: Weis strikes me as a guy who is thick skinned because he is so cock sure of himself. Criticism doesn’t bother him because he doesn’t think he’s ever wrong. And I mean ever. It’s tough to shake the confidence of someone as sure of himself as Weis – despite his many failures in the college game.

“I think it’s unfair to say (Andrew Wiggins) is going to be the next LeBron James. LeBron James is one of the top-ten players ever!”
Charles Barley, David Letterman Show
GH: After just one exhibition game against Pitt State, I hear almost everyone saying Wiggins will be a disappointment this season. I think it’s way too early to call Wiggins the next anybody – including the next Josh Selby.

“I do think they are going to trade Billy Butler and they’ll find other teams interested. I think they need the payroll flexibility. Because of the possible departure of Ervin Santana, they need to fill in that hole.”
Buster Olney, ESPN’s MLB insider, 810 AM
GH: I was surprised by Olney’s comment that he believes there will be an active market for the Royals’ one-tool DH. If Butler does get traded, what a dynamic contrast from just a year ago when Kansas City was chanting his name in unison at the All-Star Game.

“We have a mystery caller calling in. We might have to push the story of my abject stupidity.”
Danny Parkins, who was recently cited by local police for driving with expired plates and no proof of insurance and had to leave his vehicle and walk home, 610 AM
GH: I sometimes forget that 610 has filled their sports talk line-up with kids who are barely out of college. But all I have to do is tune in to be reminded.

I will be in New York this weekend to run the ING NYC Marathon Sunday morning. You can follow my trip on Twitter at @greghall24. Here’s hoping both the Chiefs and I have a great Sunday in New York.

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28 Responses to OTC: Chiefs 8-0 Record Continues To Be Less Than Impressive To Some NFL Experts

  1. Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

    Harrison’s commitment to NU was always about baseball, but still doesn’t make alot of sense. B1G baseball vs SEC baseball? Come on.

  2. JC says:

    Surprised to hear that on Harrison. Tim Jamieson really screwed the pooch for Mizzou on that recruitment.

    If a kid doesn’t play HS ball for a certain traveling team out of STL Jamieson can’t land them.

    I’d like to see Mizzou move on from TJ and hire Tony Vitello – the guy that recruited Scherzer, Crow, and Kyle Gibson to Mizzou

    • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

      Bottom line, Harrison doesn’t want to play for Jamieson, who has a bad reputation in Missouri high schools as being an arrogant jackass. However, he does want to play for Pinkel. Should be an interesting few months.

  3. JP says:

    These “experts” tend to get into groupthink ala ESPN. Was either Manning or Brady playing on the First Sunday in February this year. Nah, don’t think so. Yes the league is more offensive minded, but you need Defense to win in January and February. BTW, this will end up being a non-trap game. Chiefs win 27-13 over Bills.

    • Will says:

      It’s also a league of trends (mainly offensive) that have to end for another trend to start. And as you stated a top notch defense in the playoffs is always the “in” thing to have.

  4. Alphonse Tooty says:

    I’ll be the first to acknowledge Bill Snyder’s coaching genius, but isn’t it pretty obvious he can’t recruit anymore? He was losing when he retired the first time. He came back and won with somebody else’s recruits. Now he’s losing again.

    • Kyle says:

      Blasphemy AT! You will bow down to the God that is Bill Snyder. And his family.

    • Biff says:

      Snyder should of retired last year and gone out a winner. K-st is starting 10 seniors this years and that is a lot to replace next years. It may be worse for K-st next year. Snyder wants his son to take the job over so I could see Snyder wait until the almost the start of next year to retire so his son or someone on staff will have to take the job.

      • Twy's Gibman says:

        it’s a re-building season. many good programs have them. Only the best of the best (Oregon, Alabama, LSU) don’t.

        • Biff says:

          KSU has 10 seniors starting. they will be rebuilding again next year and it will be Waters last year.

          • Twy's Gibman says:

            The offense and defense has 7 seniors listed as starting on the depth chart, but two of them rarely play: (Trujillo, Tre Walker) and one starting lineman has been rotating with an underclassman pretty evenly all season. You’re counting special teamers as starters? Interesting. I’m sorry your school is so poor at football that you feel the need to lash out here. I’m really rooting for Charlie to get things together.

            • Biff says:

              I see 16 seniors of the two deep depth chart not counting special teams. Maybe this is not a good chart?? You got a better chart. what are you reading?

              • Twy's Gibman says:

                That’s the same one I was using. You said “K-State has 10 seniors starting.” According to the chart you linked to, that’s incorrect. Not sure if you’ve watched any games, but the 7 players on offense and defense listed as starters is really closer to 4, if you’re looking at playing time. I’m curious to see how many of Weis’ 19 juco signings in last year’s football class start next year, in what will be the senior season for most of those players.

  5. Will says:

    Chas Wies. Thick skin? Goes without saying right?

  6. Hokey says:

    That Randy guy actually played football for KU so I’d take his Kansas State comments with a grain of salt.

  7. Jim says:

    I get it. Talking heads are supposed to…..well……talk. Prisco says the Chiefs are the worst 8-0 team he’s ever seen. He also says to “watch out” in Buffalo. By that, I assume he thinks that Buffalo is going to win. If the Chiefs win, does that mean they are the worst 9-0 team he’s ever seen? Every freaking week it’s the same story. Hell, I don’t think the Chiefs are the best team in the NFL. But, I like their chances against ANYBODY with the type of defense they have. They are undefeated. I’ll just enjoy that and let everyone else worry about what they aren’t.

    • Gavin says:

      I agree with you completely except that you shouldn’t fall prey to the idea that Prisco is predicting a Chiefs loss. He left himself just enough room in terms of plausible deniability. “Whoa, whoa whoa! I never said Kansas City would LOSE that game! I said they should WATCH OUT. Huge difference!”

      Of course, if the Chiefs do lose, you an count on him saying “I believe I had that.”

  8. I wish Succop would call Baggett and give him some encouragement, much like MacDanielsson did with Mauk a few weeks back. Or at least care package some Charles Barley soup to the maligned MU kicker. He could use it.

  9. BlackJack says:

    I dont’ see what is so blasphemous about saying the Chiefs are the worst 8-0 team they have ever seen. First off, I would venture to say that there have not been very many recent 8-0 teams anyhow. Can anyone think of another 8-0 team in the last 15 years that the Chiefs are definitely better than?

    • Jim says:

      I’m not even sure what “better” is supposed to mean. Let me ask you this: Don’t you think that Denver and the 49er’s were better teams than Baltimore last year? Don’t you think the Bengals are a better team than Miami this year? It’s the NFL. The only thing that matters are the W’s.

      • Kyle says:

        Well said.

      • Say What? says:

        The W that the Dolphins got last night will mean nothing when they are at home watching the Bengals in the playoffs.

        If the Chiefs go 13-3 and then get bounced in their first playoff game again, did the 13 wins really matter in the end?

  10. b12 says:

    Worst 8-0 team? Okay. Who cares, Prisco. Style points are for college football.

    Better than having the best 2-14 team like we did last year. 5 Pro Bowlers…whee!!!

    Run the ball. Stop the run. Win the game.

    • R.H. says:

      Amen, brother, Style points be damned. And Prisco is hopping mad that the Chiefs won today in Buffalo.

      Good. Let him stew!

  11. Charlie Buffet says:

    Charlie Weis is an offensive genius…his chickens have 500 total yards in the last THREE GAMES COMBINED. “Hot dogs…get your hot dogs…how many coach? Gimme 12…Big 12!”

    When was the last time a freshman excelled under the Hairpiece? Can you say NEVER? Wiggins is a fool, he went where NBA prospects go to DIE. He will look good against Tech and OU (TCU has ku’s number, they will bottle him up) and then pee down his leg in the tournament, ala Ben “14 on the ACT” McLemore. kansas basketball is a fraud, propped up by no competition in the worst conference in the land.

  12. Java Man says:

    “Junior Henry Josey, who had been listed as questionable because of a concussion throughout the week, added 74 yards in 16 carries

    Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/11/02/4594496/halftime-report-mizzou-24-tennessee.html#storylink=cpy

    Concussion protocol in the SEC?

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