OTC: Chiefs Poised To Go 4-0 Over Down But Dangerous Giants / Royals’ Clock Ticking

“3-0 with room to grow is the theme around Arrowhead this week. .. The most fun thing is that Arrowhead is back!”
Mitch Holthus, 810 AM
GH: Holthus also said Arrowhead would be opening the parking lot to tailgaters at 7:30 AM Sunday. That is about 12 hours too late for some rabid Chiefs fans. Good to have the crazies back.

“It has been dull out there (at Arrowhead) for years. It’s kinda getting back.”
Todd Leabo, 810 AM
GH: The temps for kickoff are supposed to be in the low 70s with tailgate weather in the 60s. Can you say prime tailgate weather/atmosphere? The 3-0 Chiefs vs the 0-3 Giants. Start me up!

“If our defense plays up to the standard that they are being talked about right now we should dominate this (Giants) game.”
Bill Maas, 610 AM
GH: That was Maas earlier this week. As game day approaches, Billy Bob is getting a bit more cautious…

“(The Giants) are not a Jacksonville Jaguar team. They are dangerous.”
Bill Maas, 610 AM

“If you think the Chiefs are going to sleepwalk their way through this game and beat the Giants – no way!”
TJ Carpenter, 810 AM

“You know what kind of squad we’ve had around here the last three or four years – and we found a way to beat the Green Bay Packers!”
Bill Maas, warning that there are no sure wins in the NFL, 610 AM
GH: But not everyone things the Giants will be a test for the Chiefs…

“I don’t understand the notion that somehow Kansas City comes in (to the Giants game) at a disadvantage because the Giants didn’t win (last Sunday).”
Carrington Harrison, 610 AM

“Are (the Giants) dug in? Yes. I think this is their last desperate attempt to defend the Alamo.”
Mitch Holthus, 810 AM

“There’s no way (the Giants) are coming into Arrowhead Stadium and win this football game. None whatsoever.”
Bob Fescoe, 610 AM
GH: Fescoe has been wasting air time all week talking about him hosting his first tailgate party at Arrowhead for his Giants friends and family from New Jersey. What is with sports talkers discussing their personal lives on the air throughout their four-hour shows? 610’s Fescoe, Carrington and Parkins might be the most guilt but Petro, Steven St. John, Nate Bukaty and Kietzman also rate high on that list of thinking we are enthralled with their marriages, kids and food orders. I know consultants believe this makes the talent more real to the audience but it gives me an opportunity to check out their competition down/up the dial.

“(The Chiefs) have got a lot of problems, too. I know everybody’s going to think I’m being negative with that. They’ve got issues offensively. They’re not an overly productive offense. They’re not dynamic. They’re kind of bland. They’re kind of boring to watch. And they make a lot of mistakes. And they don’t have a lot of sustained drives.”
TJ Carpenter, 810 AM
GH: Being 3-0 does make you want to forget that anemic offense we have been watching for much of the Chiefs’ season. Carpenter makes some good (if not welcome) points. I have been impressed with TJ’s work in covering the Chiefs. He has had a debate or two with Kevin Kietzman where he has held his ground with a differing opinion. That is not an easy task for such a young Razorback.

“There are a lot of offensive lines (in the NFL) struggling. I think that is a byproduct of the collective bargaining agreement that doesn’t allow hitting (at practice). All I know is that I went from team to team and when you look at the depth on the offensive lines (of NFL teams), it is almost as bad as the back-up quarterback situations. … Eric Fisher is still raw and young but he’ll be good in time.”
John Clayton, ESPN NFL insider, when asked about the Chiefs’ offensive line woes and especially the poor play of Chiefs’ rookie Eric Fisher, 610 AM
GH: Fisher was recently rated by one NFL website as the second worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL. That is not good when you are the top overall pick in the NFL draft. But everyone in the know who I read or listen to says that patience is the key to Fisher’s success. Read on.

“Oh, probably about two more years in. He’s got to put on more size. I don’t think there is really anything to worry about he’s going to find a way to get better.”
Bill Maas, when asked when we should start worrying about top-draft pick Eric Fischer, 610 AM

“If you want this offensive line to jell I think you run the ball a little bit more with them. We’ve seen this team run the ball and this offensive line be very effective twice now in the fourth quarter of a game.”
Bill Maas, 610 AM

“Sam Mellinger wrote the column that the Chiefs might have the best defense (in the NFL) but It’s VERY clear right now that Seattle has the best defense.”
Danny Parkins, basing his assessment on how the Seahawks throttled the 49ers’ offense, 610 AM
GH: Seattle defense is good but the Chiefs are better on paper – and they just might be better on the field. It is early – WAY too early to make statements as to who or what is the best in the league. But I really, really like what I see from this Chiefs defense. It is not a coincidence that two of the loudest stadiums in the NFL this season have two of the best defenses.

“Karen Kornacki asked (Justin Houston) if this ever gets old.”
Nate Bukaty, on the Chiefs’ second-year pass rusher being named the AFC Defensive Player of the Week for the second time in three weeks, 810 AM
GH: What would we do without a Karen Kornacki question to ponder? Somehow, the female KK has fashioned a career in KC sports television that covers 30 years. Yes, THIRTY YEARS! Unlike an NFL offensive lineman, I do not think our patience is being rewarded.

“(Peyton Manning) is in mid- to late-season form three games in – which is pretty spectacular.”
Jeff Saturday, Manning’s former center in Indianapolis, ESPN Radio


“Peyton Manning looks better than ever.”
Kevin Harlan, after calling the MNF game where the Broncos destroyed the Raiders, 810 AM
GH: I am stepping out on a limb this week to say I think the Eagles roll into Denver and upset the Broncos. I just don’t believe the Broncos are as good as they have looked.

“They are in position to win 8 or 9 football games this year.”
Gary Barnett, on Missouri and their second season in the SEC, 810 AM

“This is the easiest schedule Missouri’s had in four years. I’ve been trying to tell people that and nobody wants to hear me!”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Playing Arkansas State on Saturday will tell us nothing about the Tigers. But two road SEC games at Vandy and at Georgia the next two weeks gets very, very real. BTW, those are two spectacular away trips if you are so inclined.

“You want to stare death in the face? You want to be looking at the end of your season? (Kansas State) made a stupid scheduling mistake in scheduling North Dakota State. Then they had at Texas, followed by at Oklahoma State and then Baylor. They are staring at 0-3.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: The good news is that Kansas State can turn their Big 12 hopes around with a win next week at OSU. But I do not see this Kansas State team as a team that can or will turn things around. Bill Snyder’s teams are known for how they improve. I believe this season and this team will be one of his most difficult tasks.

“I don’t think it’s dysfunctional. I just think when you win it takes care of everything. Yeah, I’m concerned (about K-State) but not at all about the things you’re pointing out.”
Stan Weber, when asked by The Border patrol about the negative comments coming out of K-State after their loss at Texas, 810 AM
GH: Stan just never cops to there being a problem at Kansas State. But I see problems where he sees missed opportunities. Read on.

“I know people are going to accuse me of wearing purple glasses and drive off the road but I propose to you that if K-State would have recovered that fumble (that Texas dropped but recovered on the early kickoff), K-State would have won that game.”
Stan Weber, 810 AM
GH: Uh, did Stan look at Texas’ offensive stats in that game? Over 500 total yards? Stan often thinks the mental side of the game determines the outcome. Sometimes the other team is just bigger, stronger and faster. If Tyler Lockett had not been wearing purple, K-State would have lost by four touchdowns. Tyler Lockett is really, really good.  

“I think about this all the time and I don’t have a solution.”
Stan Weber, when asked about Bill Snyder’s two-quarterback approach this season, 810 AM
GH: Weber did say he would probably start Jake Waters at QB but use Daniel Sams in running situations — which is pretty much what Snyder is doing.

“Right after the (Louisiana Tech/Kansas) game I felt like there was almost more disappointment in a win. I tried to make the point that Kansas fans should NEVER be upset with a win.”
Jon Kirby, of JayhawkSlant.com, 810 AM
GH: That Orange Bowl win and those Mangino years seem so far away.

“(The Royals) just ran out of time. If the season was just a little bit longer and things played out a little bit differently we’d be talking about the Royals in the postseason. They just ran out of time.”
Buster Olney, MLB analyst for ESPN, 810 AM
GH: This is just inaccurate. The Royals LOST ground to the teams they were pursuing in the wild card race the last two weeks of the season. The Royals just quit scoring runs – which is why they had such awful losing streaks throughout the season. The Royals were not playoff worthy and the talking heads like Olney who pretend they were are simply exacerbating the Dayton Moore/Ned Yost problem.

“The service-time clock is running on Eric Hosmer. He is represented by Scott Boras and we know at some time he’s going to end of walking away from the Royals.”
Buster Olney, 810 AM
GH: Hosmer is the cornerstone of the Royals along with Salvador Perez. Alex Gordon is in the backseat of this economy car with which the Royals are attempting to win a pennant race. No other Royals’ players are untradeable. Not Ventura, not Duffy, not anybody. Let’s see what Dayton does the next few months because he needs to upgrade to at least a mid-size.

“I seriously think we should show the #BreakingBad finale on the video board at #sportingpark #watchparty.”
Robb Heineman, @RobbHeineman
GH: Say it is so, Robb!

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18 Responses to OTC: Chiefs Poised To Go 4-0 Over Down But Dangerous Giants / Royals’ Clock Ticking

  1. JP says:

    First of all, I like your upset pick of Philly over Denver. I don’t think it happens, but the Eagles do keep it close. This talk of Denver going undefeated is just ridiculous. The Chiefs will get to win #4 but it will be closer than the experts think. I am saying 20-17 Chiefs will the Giants getting a late backdoor cover. The game will for the most part not be in doubt. The Giants O-line is so banged up that Eli will make some mistakes.

    The Royals window is still open. It is now up to David and Dan Glass. Do they want to spend money to get a bat in here? If they walk on Santana, I can’t blame them. He will be an anchor in the end for whoever signs him. But they need to see about signing Shields long term and pick out 3-4 players to be the lynchpins and we can make this run longer. I’m dreaming but hopefully Glass does the right thing. Actually Glass selling the team would be the best course.

    • chuck says:

      Philly might beat Denver if every one of the Broncos does acid before the game.

      Who knows, anything is possible and dropping acid can be a fun experience.

  2. P says:

    Playoff baseball teams usually don’t have the skids Kansas City hit back June (or whenever, I think I blocked it out). Win half those games and KC is in. It’s too bad.

    Greg, do you know if any of the networks have at all looked at bringing Maas back into the booth, or is he just too toxic….or is it just his own choice? The guy seems pretty intelligent (at least when it comes to football) and has a pretty solid delivery.

    OSU is winnable for KState but if that one doesn’t happen things could spiral out of control. The losses on defense are killing them and I can probably name a handful of teams in recent history that have had huge struggles when their star QB uses up all his eligibility.

  3. “Fescoe has been wasting air time all week talking”. All week? Try since the late 90s (sans the extended vacation he took in St. Louis).

  4. Joe says:

    “610’s Fescoe, Carrington and Parkins might be the most guilty but Petro, Steven St. John, Nate Bukaty and Kietzman also rate high on that list of thinking we are enthralled with their marriages, kids and food orders.”

    The personal B.S. they talk about drives me nuts. Then they cram in 30 minutes of commercials every hour.

    • ironhorseblues says:

      +1 gazillion! it’s called sports talk radio. how about these goofballs talk sports, and spare us the minutia of their personal lives…

  5. IrishClone says:

    Local sport’s talk in KC IS DEAD DEAD DEAD…………. Get a clue.Don Fortune is back and is on every station 12 hour’s a day………… Go to 102.5 the fan get some national sport’s for a change I love it……… later Irish

  6. rio_garchnik says:

    hey gang.. let’s all drive 3 hrs, in the rain, on congested I-70 to mizzou– watch them battle the mighty
    Fightin’ Goobers of Arky state.. in the rain, then drive back 3 more hours..in the rain.

    ROAD TRIP!!!!!

  7. chuck says:

    Karen Kornacki could replace Eric Fisher King, Jesus, that chick is huge. Lewis and Clark could get lost trying to get around her.

  8. Kerouac says:

    “GH: I just don’t believe the Broncos are as good as they have looked.”

    - ditto that sentiment… but about my Chiefs. More specifically, the Chiefs record is not as good as it looks, opponents (or lack thereof) considered, all records not created equally.

    Every week is a new adventure of course, with each team’s temperature (injuries/the like) variable. That said, as things stand I don’t believe a true test will come KC’s way until they play the Broncos in November.

    Denver is the best team in the NFL at this moment, my opine. Denver beat the Giants in NY by more than 3 tds, 41-23. Though the Giants are weaker now due injuries than they were thence, perhaps playing a common opponent (NYG) will provide a bit more grist comparison DEN & KC, even though in addition NY injuries KC has home field advantage vs NY, which DEN did not.

    KC has played Jacksonville, a team that perhaps? might not beat an Alabama (ditto Texas A&M’s Football Manziel.) In KC, DALL beat themselves moreso than KC did, yet ended but a mere point from a draw any way; PHIL similarly rolled over via a gift-wrapped 10 points, difference final score. DEN is winning on average by a score of 42-24; KC 24-11. Game played in KC, give the Chiefs 3 points for home field advantage & Denver still retains a 2 point edge. A game of field goals, KC’s kicker is hitting only 72% of his tries on 7 attempts, compared the Denver kicker’s 100% on 5.

    All considered, Denver’s 3-0 is more impressive/credible than KC’s.


    The biggest impression I’ve drawn through the NFL season to date: not how many superior teams there are, rather how many poor teams subsist, most no better than mediocre, at best.

    The only two teams that have dominated their opponents overall (point differential the evidence): Denver (by 56) and Seattle (by 59). Next echelon includes New Orleans (by 32) NFC and KC (by 37) AFC. Factoring in the relative strength of opponents each these 4 teams, the only team that has crushed all of their opponents is DEN (22, 18 & 16 point margins). Conversely, KC escaped by 1 point vs DALL, New Orleans by 2 vs TB & SEAT by 5 vs CAR; KC’s case, they’ve played 1 more road game to date than DEN, SEAT or NO.

    Unless KC ‘dominates’ the Giants on Sunday, will remain convinced as am now that the Chiefs are but another fair to midlin’ team (also ran, the final analysis) in the NFL, not as poor as a JACK but not as great (perhaps more accurately ‘not as complete’ a team) as DEN or SEAT.

    I’ll go with the Giants: NY 27 @KC 16

    • Lou Brown says:

      Disagree – Denver was supposed to be this good and got better in the offseason. The Chiefs were a not-even-that-good 2-14 last season and now are 4-0 with a new coach and QB – more impressive.

      • Kerouac says:

        The Chiefs season has consisted of half their games played vs win-less teams; nothing impressive about that. Add a Houdini escape by a single point (at home) vs a .500 team and a game long struggle to hold off a 1 win team with the benefit of 10 points given them… also not impressive; KC could as easily be 2-2 as 4-0.

        Unlike KC’s record, Denver’s is a DOMINANT 4-0, proof that all records are ‘not’ created equal. Today, the Broncos demolished PHIL 52-20. In fact, Denver ‘beat’ PHIL by more points than KC even scored the entire game vs the Eagles – that’s impressive. Upshot is, while Denver weekly embarrasses every team their path, Chiefs hang on by their fingernails most every game; even today, the winless Giants were still in the game until well into the 4th quarter.

        Denver is ‘averaging’ 45 points per game – almost double what KC can manage. Now ‘that’s IMPRESSIVE. When these two teams meet (injuries not interceding) it’s going to be a bloodbath, Broncos 45-10 winners my guess.

        Denver is clearly the best team in the NFL – no other team is even in the conversation.

  9. The Word says:

    Seeems like KCforum.net is no more. Looks to be offline. RIP, site really wasn’t the same when Whitlock quit 610 and quit using them to spew his propaganda.

  10. KCMonarch says:

    The guy Old Man Kissel wanted to use the 1 pick on: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/9/29/4784848/geno-smith-sad-jets

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