OTC: Chiefs Trade 34th Pick For 49ers’ Alex Smith / Hunt & Pioli Problems Persist

“Kansas City will trade its second-round pick in the 2013 draft — the second selection (No. 34 overall) in the round — as well as another conditional mid-round pick in 2014 to acquire [Alex] Smith from San Francisco, a league source told ESPN.”
John Clayton, ESPN.com
GH: That price is WAY more than was previously floated about by some NFL experts who were talking about a fourth-round pick being enough to get the 49ers’ backup quarterback. But the Chiefs are desperate for a QB. I believe after they got an up-close look at the available QB talent at the NFL combine they became even more desperate – the 34th overall-pick desperate.

“I think that gap between [Geno Smith] and the next guy is pretty wide – but [Geno] just didn’t look that good throwing the ball at times. … His ball placement was kind of inconsistent which has always been a knock on him. … I could poke holes in the other quarterbacks but with Geno not as long. Geno Smith was far and away the best quarterback we saw in Indy.”
Matt Miller, 810 AM
GH: I think the Chiefs also saw Geno as the best quarterback pick in the draft and that scared them into offering the 49ers their 34th overall pick and another pick in 2014. It appears the 2013 QB draft class is just as bad as advertised. Maybe even worse. Get ready for the Chiefs to not draft a QB this April until maybe the fourth round.

“Alex Smith is a leader. He is the total professional quarterback. He’s not sexy, he’s not going to blow you away but he can win you football games in Kansas City. You’re not going to the Super Bowl – don’t pretend you are.”
Damon Bruce, from the San Francisco 49ers radio broadcast team and KNBR, in a Wednesday afternoon interview with Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: The reality of this statement should boil your Chiefs’ red blood – and your frustration should all be laid at the feet of two individuals; Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli. It was this pairing that allowed the Chiefs to become so quarterback weak that this franchise will begin the 2013 season with hopes of simply being competitive. Clark Hunt strikes again.

“[Alex Smith] is a good competent NFL quarterback to bridge the gap between the Chiefs stinking out loud and becoming a decent football team.”
Damon Bruce, 810 AM
GH: Chiefs fans, meet the bridge to hopefully somewhere. That should be the Chiefs 2013 slogan.

“There is good Alex. There is decent Alex. And there is evil Alex.”
Damon Bruce, 810 AM
GH: I believe Alex is a better Smith than Geno – but neither are probably going to advance the Chiefs past Denver and into the playoffs. I sure as hell hope he is not Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac and Matt Cassel reincarnated – but he sure looks to be. Again, I think he’s probably the Chiefs best option – but what a shame that Clark Hunt and Pioli placed us in this era of mediocrity.

“[Alex] Smith [won’t] drive disgruntled Chiefs fans to the box office. But he would bring wins and added credibility. He would change the culture in Kansas City.”
Adam Schein, NFL columnist, NFL.com
GH: Winning will change the culture of Chiefs fans in Kansas City. Alex and Andy have their work cut out for them.

“If the Chiefs want my opinion: Sign/trade for Alex Smith. Draft Matt Scott in Round 5. Cut Cassel. Sign Bowe. Draft Joeckel.”
Matt Miller, @nfldraftscout, prior to the reports that the Chiefs had traded for Alex Smith, Twitter

“Officiating errors were made at the end of the regulation. The plays have been reviewed and appropriate measures will be taken.”
Big 12 official statement on the Kansas/Iowa State game
GH: The penalty for these errors will be for the Big 12 to “adjust the number of future assignments for two of the officials involved.” Read on.

“It was crushingly disappointing to see the reaction [by the Big 12] of what occurred [in Ames] on Monday night.”
Mike DeCourcy, citing the referees’ calls in not calling a charge on Elijah Johnson but then calling a foul on Georges Niang after they fell to the court, and also incorrectly attributing what would have been Jeff Withey’s fifth foul to Kevin Young, 810 AM
GH: I still do not understand why the fifth foul on Withey was not reviewed. We can complain all we want about officials but the task is a difficult one, probably too difficult in those charged environments for men relying on nothing more than their senses. Replay needs to be elevated to a much higher role or we all should just accept that these games will continue to be poorly officiated.

“I’m sorry, but it’s not his team.”
Aaron Swarts, while discussing the merits of Kansas State’s Bruce Weber as the Big 12 coach of the year, 810 AM
GH: I think Weber is the easy favorite for the Big 12 COTY. Sure, he’s working with Frank Martin’s players but that’s not the easiest task a coach could take on. K-State needs to finish strong but I don’t think the voting will even be close this year. Kansas may win the conference title but this is one of Bill Self’s worst coached teams. He has managed to take a team that we all thought would waltz through the conference and turn the Jayhawks’ Big 12 season into one of the more exciting on record.

“I don’t think [Missouri] is going to be without Phil Pressey next year. I think [the idea of Pressey declaring early for the NBA draft] has been adjusted.”
Steven St. John, 810 AM
GH: Pressey needs another year to understand how to handle pressure, pace and the clock. College is for teaching and a senior year might be just what Flip needs to allow the game to slow down for him.

“I hate to kill anybody but early in my career we paid a guy named Raef LaFrentz more than anybody. When we found out we’d made a mistake we got rid of him.”
Mark Cuban, when asked by Howard Stern what was the biggest mistake he made signing players to the Dallas Mavericks, Sirius XM 100
GH: Cuban was a guest on Stern’s show last week and he made some entertaining sports-related comments. Read on.

“I used to go to a lot of the Mavericks games just as a fan. It was the start of the 1999-2000 season and I was sitting there thinking, ‘I can run this team better than this guy.’ Then I just thought to myself, ‘Wait a minute! I’m a rich motherfucker now! I’ll just buy the team!”
Mark Cuban, when asked how he became the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, Sirius XM

“To even consider it, it would have to be at least a billion dollars. I wouldn’t sell it for anything less than that.”
Mark Cuban, when asked by Stern if he would ever sell the Mavericks, Sirius XM
GH: Cuban said he paid $285 million for the Mavericks in 2000 and that he has no plans to sell the team. Cuban said he tried to buy three MLB teams – the Pirates, the Cubs and the Rangers – but that MLB owners were “scared” of him. Cuban said since there was no salary cap in MLB, they were afraid he would drive the price of player salaries up and ruin the free-agent market. He said they were correct; he would do anything to win. I was sad and somewhat surprised he never seriously considered buying the Royals.

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35 Responses to OTC: Chiefs Trade 34th Pick For 49ers’ Alex Smith / Hunt & Pioli Problems Persist

  1. Jim says:

    Hey, $285,000 for the Mav’s? Now that’s a bargain, GH! Might want to use a couple MM’s there, buddy.

  2. JS says:

    I think the slogan should be “We’re The Chiefs, We do the same thing over and over expecting different results.” (Einstein’s definition of Insanity)

  3. sm7600 says:

    what is it that makes otherwise smart people so damn dumb the minute they start working for the Chiefs or Royals?

  4. Gavin says:

    Well, I’m glad the Big XII recognized that officiating errors were made. But I’m not going to hold a grudge. I’m willing to let bygones be bygones and just forgive the awful officiating entirely. But, again, it’s nice of the Big XII to admit the mistakes.

  5. JP says:

    GH: I think the Chiefs also saw Geno (Smith) as the best quarterback pick in the draft and that scared them into offering the 49ers their 34th overall pick and another pick in 2014.

    Greg, I think you stumbled into the truth with the above comment. They saw how bad the QB’s in this class were, and moved on the best available alternative. I don’t put Alex in the same category as Grbac, Bono or Cassel. Alex Smith was the first player taken in the draft in 2005. He has lead his team to a come from behind playoff win over Drew Brees no less, by taking his team down the field. Plus he will be with a coach that knows what he wants from quarterbacks and knows how to use them. I applaud the Chiefs for this move, and I believe it will pay dividends down the road.

  6. J Rok says:

    I know there aren’t a lot of QBs to choose from right now but, Alex Smith is not worth two 2nd round picks. I’d rather have an unknown 2nd round QB with potential, than a known middle of the pack QB. Two 2nd round picks shows management believes he is the guy. If they traded a few 4th rounders it would show they believe he is a stop gap until we find that franchise QB. Alex Smith may be enough to get the Chiefs to the playoffs a time or two, but once they get there, it will be the same ol story, losing in the first round.

  7. Gavin says:

    Greg, why are you killing Clark Hunt. I understand he’s the “captain of the ship” and everything, but what would you have done differently? Obviously, hiring Pioli was a mistake, but no one knew that at the time. At the time, hiring Pioli was the genius, no-brainer move. NO ONE, not even you as I recall, killed Clark Hunt for hiring Pioli. Sure, with the benefit of hindsight, Pioli turned out to be an ego-and-bullshit machine, but no one knew that then. The way I see it, Pioli got the Chiefs to where they were at the end of this past season.

    And then, at the end of the season, we all wanted The Clarks to act and act decisively and he did. He brought Pioli to heel (and even publicly humiliated Pioli in the process, which made me feel pretty good) and went out and hired his man in Andy Reid, a guy with some playoff success and historically a good quarterback groom. And now you complain because they made the best choice between the bad choice of Geno Smith or Alex Smith. I agree, these two choices are definitely very bad, but if the consensus is that they made the best one, what is it that you want them to do? It’s not as if they’re going to be able to get the Patriots to trade Tom Brady to the Chiefs, is it? I’m as frustrated as the next Chiefs fan, but for the life of me, I can’t see what it is that Clark Hunt is supposed to have done about a quarterback, especially this year.

    When Chiefs fans wanted Carl Peterson fired, Clark Hunt fired him. When everyone in the western world wanted him to hire Scott Pioli, he hired Scott Pioli. When the entire city demanded that he fire Pioli, he not only fired him, he made Pioli sit outside the room while he interviewed for his new master, probably knowing full well that Pioli would eventually get the axe anyway. Again, I get the frustration of being a Chiefs fan because I feel it too. But what else, exactly, is Clark Hunt supposed to do?

    • chuck says:

      Gavin stole all my thunder.

      In the NFL marketplace, as it is this year, in the draft and QBs available from other teams, Alex Smith is a light year better than any other option.

      Greg is right imo to this extent. The ultimate blame for this move, good or bad, is on Pioli for leaving the Chiefs with dreck.

      I gotta believe that Andy isn’t done with the QB position and sees it as an ongoing, ever developing situation.

    • Greg Hall says:

      G, My problem with Clark is that he needed to be more involved with Pioli once we all realized that Cassel was in flames. I understand hiring good people and allowing them to do their job. But when it got to the point where you are firing a head coach after two years, that should have been a wake-up call to Clark. Instead he wasted two more years and we now find ourselves hoping another retread QB can bridge the gap to returning to the playoffs.

  8. theSportsSnark says:

    I read a good comment about the Alex Smith trade. I forget from whom. But they noted that Alex Smith excelled when he was put in an offense built around several hundred running/misdirection plays. By comparison, Andy Reid has one running play, a draw, that he runs about once per quarter. Should this at least concern, if not scare the crap out of, Chiefs fans about this trade?

  9. The Word says:

    Can’t…stop…yawning…..

    Alex Smith, really? Another stop gap guy? Can’t wait to see all of the Cameroheads buy out all of the Alex Bono…or is it Elvis Smith Jersey’s this summer.

  10. Arte says:

    Whether Alex Smith works out or not and I doubt he will, in terms of draft picks he is the most overrated player perhaps in the history of the NFL. He was the number one overall pick out of college. And then after seven years of mediocre football, he’s worth the number one pick in the second round. That’s a lot of value.

    • TangoAlphaLima says:

      Technically it’s the second pick in the second round. The top pick of each round is switched between the Chiefs and Jaguars. Chiefs get #1 in the first round, Jags get #1 in the second.

  11. The Smartman says:

    Smith is a great move for the Chiefs but sportssnark hit it on the head. Smiths talents and Andy’s legacy are at odds with each other. I’ll consider 8-8 the goal for this season.

    Refs will always blow calls but the EJ and Withey non-calls were the worst decisions since KCFD and MGE decided not to evacuate JJ’s. That squad should be fired from officiating in the BIG12. With the money they pay NCAA refs you can’t tell me there aren’t better quality people available.

    KC’s not a sexy enough zip code for Cuban. And, it’s clear he’s still taking bong hits. $1B for the Mavericks? Insane.

  12. Greg says:

    Best thing to happen is stink in 2013 so they are drafting in the top 5-10. There are 5-6 quality QB’s in next year’s draft. AJ McCarron, Aaron Murray, etc.

  13. Observer says:

    With all this quarterback talk and our playoff hopes seemingly being tied to that position, I claim it all to be out of context of the reality of the AFC. In my opinion, the objective of the Chiefs is to find a real starting quarterback AND devise a defense to stop Manning’s Broncos, the later more important to making the playoffs than the former.

    If you can’t beat Denver, then your playoff hopes are dead no matter who your quarterback is. So, we’re then playing to gain a wildcard. I don’t know about you all, but the Chiefs are not as good as the three other second-place teams of the other AFC divisions.

    What I want to see progress on is a defense to stop the Denver offense. Without that, Alex Smith or some draft pick won’t sniff a playoff run. Will someone realistically tell me that the acquisition of Alex Smith makes us better than those teams? I don’t believe it. Here are the first and second place teams in the other three divisions; someone tell me the Chiefs are better than them:
    Patriots and Dolpins; Ravens and Bengals; Texans and Colts. That doesn’t even include the realistic playoff contending Steelers.

    In my opinion, if we don’t look at quarterback discussions in context of the conference and the reality of the Denver Broncos, then we are simply being homers … which isn’t all that bad a thing.

    • The Smartman says:

      Well stated, but the Chiefs had to do something at the QB position. I can’t disagree with the move. The Chiefs need help on both sides of the ball. Discipline and attitude were the two biggest problems in 2012. Romeo was never gonna turn the Chiefs into Spartans. They were more like confused lesbians.

      Balls in Andy’s court. He owns it. For me, that is far more refreshing then the himinahiminahiminahimina from Pioli, Haley and Crennel.

      • Gavin says:

        One sure sign I’ve been snowed in too long is when I agree with Smartman. But he’s right. They had to do something. They made the best move out of a batch of available shitty moves. I don’t hate this move, I just fear they paid too much for Alex Smith whereas for Geno Smith, the biggest cost would have been Clark Hunt’s money. I trust Andy Reid can craft a system that will make this move work and if he can’t, I fully expect to be right back here bitching in two or three more years, if that long.

  14. Rick says:

    KK Meltdown Alert!!! KK just had a meltdown screaming at Jack Harry. It was basically this: “I KNOW MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL AND QB’S THAN ANDY REID & JOHN DORSEY!!! WAHH WHAAAA!” There was radio silence for 7 seconds after he was done ranting. Even Clinkscale dumbfounded. Anyone else hear that?

    • Gavin says:

      I did. It was one of those times where you could tell Mad Jack was just “handling” Kietzman.

    • KCMonarch says:

      Psst….kk is irrelevant to any intelligent conversation involving sports. Give us an update next time the grill store is having a sale.

      • Old Man Kissel says:

        Really the No. 1 sports talk show in the city is irrelevant?

        810 scoops 610 once again….

  15. Goose13 says:

    Alex Smith is a proven winner. Bono, Grabac, Cassel, none of them are. I could be wrong, but doesn’t Alex Smith have more playoff wins than all of them??

  16. john doe says:

    Poor Alex Smith has no idea what he is getting himself into

    Coming to a city where they have such a rich QB tradition, they expect every QB to be the second coming of Joe fucking Montana (as a 49er).

    He doesn’t stand a chance in this town.

  17. Jared says:

    Christ, learn another tune, you one-note bastard. Besides, “scooping” 610 means nothing when your competition blows goats. Being number one when number two is a bucket of suck is hardly an accomplishment worth trumpeting.

    If 810 (or any other sports media entity) were truly worth anything, it’d set its sights much higher, measuring itself against worthier competition.

  18. Jared says:

    Crap, not sure why my comment wound up down here. I was replying to Old Man Kissel’s inane, repetitive scooping business…

  19. Splitlog Quindaro says:

    MLB owners are afraid of Cuban because when they look at him…. they see a Generation X version of George Steinbrenner. Cuban is an economic engine and winner.

    • Barles James says:

      dead right split – think the Royals would be hanging onto Hochever in 2013 if Cuban were running things? Sure, he makes mistakes, but they’re not from being tight or scared.

  20. b12 says:

    Hi Kevin. Your show isn’t irrelevant; just highly predictable.

    At least Jack will disagree with you. Frank Boal will just mushmouth around. Is Frank still running out a 14 year “Crunch Time” contract? Why is he on EVERY show on 810?

    Kenny Kenny brings more substance.

    • JP says:

      Now there was a colossal waste of time, wrapped in a 2 hour show. Crunch Time. Frank Boal’s witty bantering showing his consensus opinions. His Crunch Time Contract was for 20 years, so we have 8 more to go.

      Also, KK is such an expert, why didn’t he apply for GM. His only prescription to the Chiefs is draft QB’s. No line help, no Defense, just QB. At least he will be entertaining, it does make you want the Chiefs to win just to shut him up temporarily. Go ahead with your rebuttal Kissel.

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