OTC: Greinke Returns To The K As A Brewer / How Will KC Fans React? / 610’s Big Show Debuts

“I’ve thought about it. I don’t think [playing at The K as an opponent] will be much different.”
Zack Greinke, on his return to Kauffman Stadium Tuesday night as member of the Brewers, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
GH: Greinke always was a dreamer. While I will never understand why fans turn on the same athletes they once adored, Greinke better be ready for the Johnny Damon treatment tonight at The K. Sure, the guy will be wearing a different uniform but he gave Royals’ fans some great years and a Cy Young season. And the trade with the Brewers resulted in the Royals’ shortstop and center fielder of the future along with the franchise’s best pitching prospect. Boo all you want tonight but I don’t get the misplaced spite.

“The fans were always good to me [in Kansas City]. I don’t know how they’ll be when I go back [as an opponent], but while I was there they were great to me. I’ll never say anything bad about how I’ll be treated over there, especially by the fans.”
Zack Greinke, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
GH: Johnny Damon pretty much make the same comments when asked about playing in front of Kansas City fans as an opponent. Damon even stated he would likely enter the HOF as a Royal if honored with the induction. Read on.

“Johnny Damon and Zack Greinke are so similar. There are a lot of media people who are making a career out of saying Johnny Damon took the money. Johnny Damon wanted to win! I love Zack Greinke. Zack Greinke said, ‘I don’t believe you’re going to win.’ And two years later they’re still not winning. I can’t blame Zack Greinke for that.”
Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: Steven St. John is one of the more vocal Kansas City-based sports voices in his distaste for both Damon and Greinke. A debate between Petro and SSJ on this subject would be far more entertaining than another Joel “Company Man” Goldberg snooze-inducing chat on The Program.

“My house is, like, 100 yards away from the visiting hotel but I’m renting it out, so I won’t be able to stay there. Some guy did a two-year lease. But I’ll be able to see it.”
Zack Greinke, on his home on The Country Club Plaza, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
GH: This is the house that George Brett inquired about purchasing from Greinke but was told it was not for sale. If it is 100 yards from the Intercontinental Hotel, it’s got to be some pretty nice digs. 

“I’m looking forward to getting in the car and driving around [Kansas City]. So, I guess after I pitch I’ll be able to spend the next day doing whatever. That will be cool. It’s a good city. I enjoyed my time there.”
Zack Greinke, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
GH: I will be looking for Zack on Wednesday on my commute and during my daily run. I suggest you do the same.

“It really is all about winning. It’s about being a good teammate, too, and all that stuff, but a lot of things get overshadowed when you have that type of talent. If we were winning, he would have a completely different attitude. … I think Zack’s grown up over the years, and I should say so have I.”
Billy Butler, on his public criticism of Greinke after he said he no longer wanted to be a Royal in 2010, Kansas City Star
GH: Winning is what it’s about. Greinke got that and Butler is now starting to understand. Players eventually get tired of watching other teams celebrate championships while they watch on television.

“Their coaches are really good. And I like the city. We still have a place there. [Wife] Emily loved it there. But I don’t know. It’s a tough question. I have more thoughts about it, but I can’t really say it out loud. The answer’s not ‘no’ or ‘yes,’ it’s just, ‘I don’t know yet.’ ”
Zack Greinke, when asked by Sam Mellinger last year about the chances of him returning to the Royals after this season, Kansas City Star
GH: The chances of Greinke returning to Kansas City are about the same as Nick Wright returning to 610 Sports. Not gonna happen.

“KC people: I’m gonna have a 1 hour podcast soon that you can listen to from 2-3 after Parko… And then I’d recommend @lazlothebuzz from 3-7.”
Nick Wright, @getnickwright, Twitter
GH: Wright believes he can draw listeners from the show that replaced him on 610 Sports, The Big Show, and damage their ratings. Wright is under the same delusion that many on-air broadcasters suffer from – he thinks he is the reason people tune into his show. Wright has some fans but every one of them was cultivated because of 610 sports-talk format and its powerful AM signal. An Internet radio show originating in Houston directed toward KC fans sounds awful – as will its numbers – if it happens at all. I don’t see Wright’s new station in Houston allowing their new morning guy to host his own podcast as a vehicle to sling mud on his former station. Read on.

“they just needlessly fired carter and carm…”
Nick Wright, @getnickwright, when asked why he is being so spiteful toward his former station, Twitter

“When you’ve got a three-man group, there’s nothing worse than three voices coming at you at the same time.”
Josh Vernier, lead host of 610 Sports’ new afternoon-drive The Big Show, 610 AM
GH: Vernier [pronounced VERN’-yer] must be a regular listener to The Border Patrol’s Listen or Lose segment on Friday mornings. 

“There is Jayice Pearson on the Time Warner Cable hotline.”
Josh Vernier, as Pearson signed off via a phone call, 810 AM
GH: 610 Sports is presenting The Big Show as a three-man booth, but Pearson was on their inaugural show for all of about 10 minutes – and he called in on his cell phone. I expect Vernier to be the anchor host and for Jay Binkley to be in studio on most days. But Pearson is a football-only guy who really won’t add much to the show outside of pigskin season.

“I’m well aware of Nedley and his ways. … I’m only one game in and the guy has me pulling out what little hair I have left!”
Josh Vernier, on covering Yost when he managed the Brewers, 610 AM
GH: Vernier sounded like a professional sports talk host on day one. He wasn’t all that provocative or controversial but he sounded fairly comfortable guiding this new show and he did a good job of leaning on Binkley for his local and national knowledge. I think the show has a chance.

“Apparently, [Twitter’s] what Kansas City runs on. I’m just not a real look-at-me kind of guy. ‘Hey, here’s what I had for breakfast.’ So you won’t be getting any of those from me.”
Josh Vernier, 610 AM
GH: Vernier might be the exact opposite of Nick Wright. In other words, he is far more Kietzman than frustrated rich kid smoking Black & Milds.

“This [bout between Pacquiao and Bradley] was a turd. I shouldn’t say that word. I’m sorry.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: So now the word “turd” is too naughty for KK? Maybe he should just discuss Missouri when he wants to wash his mouth out. Read on.

“There’s nobody in this [SEC] league that is going to look at Missouri and say, ‘Oh, oh. We’ve got Missouri this week. We’ve got to be on!’ ”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: KK was interviewing Dave Matter of the Columbia Tribune while discussing MU’s new football conference. KK is not high on the Tigers’ chances in the SEC. Read on.

“If Alabama has their typical Alabama defense, Missouri could be exposed and absolutely look terrible against a defense like that.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Yeah, the same as every other college football team in the country. Alabama is pretty good. And this season MU fans get to see just how good when the Tide rolls into Columbia on October 13th. I don’t think the Tigers are that inferior to their new SEC brothers. I guess we’ll find out.

“I think some of the lesser schools in the SEC are going to look at Missouri as if they are one of them. Mississippi State is going to say, ‘Well, they’re kind of one of us. There’s one of the teams that we can beat.’ I think deep down that’s what they’ll think.”
Danny Clinkscale, 810 AM
GH: Mizzou clocked a good Arkansas team 38-7 in the 2008 Cotton Bowl. Missouri has beaten the Big 12’s best in Nebraska, Texas, Oklahoma, K-State and A&M in recent years. I think the Big 12 plays a pretty good brand of football. While the SEC’s top two teams are maybe better, I don’t see Mizzou football melting in the heat of the south.

“There’s more buzz about this Missouri [football] season than I have ever seen before.”
Dave Matter, columnist for the Columbia Tribune, 810 AM
GH: Matter listened to the comments from Kietzman and Clinkscale and never countered with an alternative view. Was he that happy to be on their show to promote his new book, The Mizzou Fan’s Survival Guide To The SEC?

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34 Responses to OTC: Greinke Returns To The K As A Brewer / How Will KC Fans React? / 610’s Big Show Debuts

  1. renton says:

    Time for Nicky to STFU. He’s gone. Who gives a rat’s butt about what he thinks or says?

    • Mike says:

      Yeah. Funny to discuss both Greinke and Wright in the same column. Both are out of sight, out of mind. I could care less about either now.

      Move on, Nick. We have.

    • KCMonarch says:

      NW is the guy who graduated high school, got a job at the cement plant, then kept coming to the high school parties demanding to be the one to “tap the keg” so he could feel relevant again.

  2. Bugeaters says:

    I am not sure what to think of Mizzou in the SEC when it comes to football. I think they will be middle of the pack, like they have been in the Big12 for the past couple years.

    “Mizzou clocked a good Arkansas team 38-7 in the 2008 Cotton Bowl. Missouri has beaten the Big 12’s best”…….That was when Mizzou had their best teams/players in the schools history and when Nebraska and KState were down as football programs……

  3. JFP says:

    Listen or Lose rocks. Some of the best laughter I get all week.

  4. john doe says:

    It’s amazing how KK still gets MU people on his show.

    • marge says:

      It’s amazing to me how MU people are so sensitive. MU is not the be-all and end-all MU folks think they are. MU is a nice university, just like any other university. Not better or worse.

      • john doe says:

        I’ve never seen it written that it was ever the greatest university.

        • BlackJack says:

          A large segment of MU fans have acted that way, ever since they got the invite to the SEC. They sort of turned up their noses at the other schools in the Big12, even though they were a member themselves for 100+ years.

          • CommonSense says:

            Are these fans people you know or something you heard on KK’s show?

            Most MU people I know say that they will miss the Big 12 and the KU rivalry, but not that they are gone they look forward to the new SEC games.

          • kcredsox says:

            The same was said about NU when they left, but I don’t know any Husker fans that think they are too good to play any Big 12 teams. What KU and KState don’t understand is that TexASS ruined this conference and it will never be the same.

          • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

            I would imagine those fans got sick and tired of hearing how MU was worthless and that the SEC didn’t want any part of them, neither did the Big 10, yada yada…. So when the SEC invite came to fruition, you’re damn right they thumbed their noses at the same people who were running their mouths.

  5. Mike says:

    I will give The Big Show several chances, because I am completely done listening to KK, but from the first hour or so I heard yesterday, it reminded me of the snoozefest previously known as Crunch Time. Might just have to listen to 980 on the way home from now on.

    • Anfo says:

      The new guy Josh punked Nick today around 3:30. He claimed he wasn’t one of those guys that wanted to pal around with athletes. He said somethin like I’m not one of those guys that brag about hainging out with Brandon Carr last night.

      It seemed to be a direct shot at Nick Wright and all his Brandon Carr love he professed.

  6. Smartman says:

    Grienke is a head case. Howard Hughes with a fastball. I give him credit for being honest about wanting out and why. No way in hell he comes back. David Glass won’t write the check and Zack will have better opportunities afforded him. It’s clear he wants a ring. Only way he gets that here is if he goes shopping at Tivol.

    People that are pissed at Zack are the same low life’s that go into a Mexican restaurant, order one taco and a Coke, eat two pounds of chips, a quart of sauce and a gallon of Coke refills and then don’t tip. If you’re looking for someone to sacrifice for your pleasure and well being that would be Jesus and not Zack.

    The first football season in the SEC is going to be tough for MU. No SEC school wants to be MU’s first win. They will get everybody’s best shot and Gary “hic” Pinkel is still the coach.

    TURD, acronym for Tired, Uninteresting, Radio, Daily. Sounds like KK to me.

  7. brett says:


    i’d be interested to hear more of your thoughts on why there’s no chance greinke comes back. i know some believe he burned this bridge by criticizing the organization on the way out of town. but i thought his comments at the time were relatively tame, and, more importantly, mostly accurate.

    greinke’s recent comments about returning to kc (“I have more thoughts about it, but I can’t really say it out loud.”) seem to leave the door open for a return. although i admit only a fool would try to read too much into anything greinke says.

    i hope the fans cheer him tonight, in the hopes it may have some effect on his decision- this from a guy who loudly booed beltran and damon everytime they entered the 3rd base dugout at the K.

    • KCMonarch says:

      Seriously? The answer to your question in shorthand: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  8. Merle Tagladucci says:

    If you boo Greinke tonight you’re probably a communist.

  9. joe says:

    I don’t have a problem with anything Greinke said. It was the way he mailed it in
    towards the end.

  10. SquirrelMan says:

    Why would any Royals fan expect these guys to stay in KC, when the team has been a perennial loser? I am a die hard Royals fan, watch them every night and go to as many games as I can. We rip on the guys that leave (Damon and Beltran) but yet treat the guys who do sign here like shit (Sweeney, Butler, etc). Sure, Sweeney was hurt a lot, but that doesn’t change that he was one of the best hitters when healthly. Butler is the best and most consistent hitter on the team, yet people rip him for running slow and grounding into double plays. Who wants to sign a below market contract to stay with a team that hasn’t won anything in 25+ years, and then get bashed anyway? Fuck that, if they are going to get bashed might as well go to a team that wins and have more fun.

  11. Joe Blow says:

    Is Missouri not good enough to play a field goal battle with Alabama like LSU did twice last year?

    And, Greinke completely bailed on the Royals. GMDM made out really well on the trade, but if Greinke wanted to win with the Royals, his bailing damaged their chances..

  12. Scott Simon says:

    If Kevin Kietzman bet his predictions, he’d be bankrupt with a new owner of WHB. Same thing with most sportscasters.

  13. Splitlog Quindaro says:

    The SEC basketball coaches are not counting MU as a gimme.. I can guarantee that. I think MU brings a lot to the SEC in terms of basketball. I can actually see a Kentucky MU rivalry coming. They will take some from them. MU can beat Billy Donovan on any given night. As for football… There are a lot more unknowns. It could be rough. Hey I am a KU fan… but the SEC is better at basketball with Haith and Martin in the mix.

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