OTC: Hosmer Remains Royals Pet But Also Becoming The Media’s Target / Kietzman Is Not Fair Game For Your Jokes

“I think you would have to say that Dayton Moore is putting his job in the hands of Eric Hosmer.”
Soren Petro, on the perception that the Royals have decided to strap their 2014 postseason hopes onto the back of their first baseman no matter his offensive numbers, 810 AM

“I’m sorry, but Eric Hosmer is a six-foot-four, 220-pound first baseman singles hitter! I have to have better than that! At first base you have to have some pop! Not a number-two hole singles hitter. He doesn’t want to change. He thinks he’s doing fine. And the Royals want to make sure that he believes he’s doing good.”
Mike Boddicker, 810 AM
GH: Some believe Eric Hosmer is the key offensive player to the Royals playing in the postseason this October or not. Ned Yost and the Royals continue to treat Hosmer like he is George Brett and some of the local media and fans are starting to question their parenting skills. First it was Moose and now it’s Hoz.

“Eric Hosmer, frequently – not always – plays the game like an airhead.”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM

“It’s good to know its Billy Butler with the ego, not the guy who stubbornly hits Eric Hosmer second every night.”
@royalsreview, Twitter

“He likes to eat and he doesn’t like to work out. That’s not a good combination.”
Mike Boddicker, on Billy Butler’s less-than-athletic physique, 810 AM

“I complain about the Royals philosophy, focus, work etc, but if I didn’t, the alternative would be to acknowledge they just aren’t any good.”
TJ Carpenter, @TJCarpenterWHB, Twitter
GH: I refuse to believe the Royals aren’t any good. Their lineup is full of talented players who in my opinion too often underperform. If the Royals do stink, I am sure wasting a lot of summer nights bathed in their questionable cologne.

“I didn’t really go out and tell people (I made the All-Star team). I guess they just kind of figured it out on their own.”
Greg Holland, in an interview with Jay Binkley and Henry Lake, 610 AM
GH: With the number of likable personalities on the Royals’ roster dwindling with each pay-per-view fight night, Holland is as refreshing a local celebrity as this town has seen in some time. He is wildly underappreciated by MLB because he plays for the Royals. He is just as underappreciated as an interview. I think Holland could one day have a great second career as a color analyst on TV or radio. He is simply yet deep.

“I don’t really concern myself with (what music is playing when I walk in from the dugout). The only thing I concern myself with is throwing strike one and making sure we’re still winning when winning when I get out of the game.”
Greg Holland, when asked why he allowed James Shields to pick his walk-in music, 610 AM
GH: This was just an enjoyable interview by 610’s midday crew of Lake and Binkley. You can listen to the entire interview by clicking here.

“I really wasn’t going to do anything, so getting to go to Minnesota to play in the All-Star Game is really kind of a treat.”
Greg Holland, when asked about his plans for the All-Star week if he had not been selected, 610 AM
GH: How can you not like this guy?

“With 35.6 million Tweets, #BRA v #GER is the most-discussed single sports game ever on Twitter.”
@TwitterData, on Germany’s 7-1 throttling of the host country, Twitter
GH: How does Brazil overcome this embarrassment? They have won more World Cup titles than any other country except Germany but this loss may be what haunts the home of Pele the rest of this century. It was that embarrassing.

“Andrew Wiggins shoe deal with adidas is worth about $2M a year (over five years). Slightly short of the $14M-$18M projections made last year.”
Darren Rovell, @darrenrovell, Twitter
GH: I hope Wiggins is expecting a phone call from the Williams Fund asking him to help pay for that new basketball dorm in Lawrence.

“Marc J. Spears of Yahoo! Sports previously reported (Wiggins’ adidas) contract as being worth close to $100 million over 10 years, but that Tweet was subsequently deleted. Spears later reported that it is a five-year deal worth approximately $12 million to $13 million.” Jeff Zillgitt and Sam Amick, USA Today

“Most KU fans don’t care about how good Andrew Wiggins is in the NBA.”
Frank Boal, 810 AM
GH: Is this true, KU? I think all alums are very proud of their former athletes once they succeed in the professional ranks – but they lose interest quickly if the player is a bust or also-ran in the pros. Paul Pierce versus Greg Ostertag.

“I would be really mad if I was on a game broadcast some night that made me the butt of a joke. It would anger me, Danny, to no end!”
Kevin Kietzman, after discussing a fan who is suing the Yankees for showing him sleeping in his seat, 810 AM
GH: If you have ever wondered why Kevin Kietzman’s voice never appears as a humorous drop for The Border Patrol or The Program, you no longer need to wonder. KK does not suffer being made fun of lightly. I don’t really understand this kind of person but it takes a special kind of guy to be able to dish it out but refuse to be on the receiving end.

“(Collin Klein) got the best deal of any college football player ever! He got to make a run at a Heisman Trophy, play for a legendary coach and win a conference championship. Now they hired him to have a job as a coach. What’s wrong with that? He became famous and got a look (from the NFL) just because of that, when he never really had the ability to play quarterback in the NFL. Trust me, John Currie could go run an NFL franchise!”
Kevin Kietzman, to a caller who argued that the K-State quarterback was not adequately compensated in college for his contributions to the Wildcat football program compared to Currie and the coaches’ salaries, 810 AM
GH: Collin Klein is the most important reason that Kansas State has been able to spends the millions of dollars in facility upgrades the past few years. His play for four years was worth millions to KSU. History tells us that the beatings he took as the Wildcats quarterback will likely haunt him as he ages. For Kietzman to say that Klein was adequately compensated for his contributions to Kansas State is embarrassing.

“He stopped short of agreeing with me but I could tell he wanted to.”
Kevin Kietzman, when he suggested to K-State’s AD, John Currie, that scholarship college athletes on K-State’s campus are the one percenters, 810 AM
GH: This might be one of my favorite KK quotes. Kevin knows what you’re thinking even when you’re not thinking it.

“I think most of the basketball coaches want to give these kids the world and football coaches want to give them a little. Football coaches want to say, ‘You’re not entitled to anything! You have to work for it!’”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Translation: Bill Snyder is a far better man than Bill Self.

“I don’t want anything I do or say here on the radio show to be taken by someone else and have them make a profit with it. We are protected by copyrights.” K
evin Kietzman
, 810 AM
GH: I find it interesting that Kietzman and his sports radio station make a living off of reporting on, critiquing and goofying on what athletes, coaches and front office people do while performing their jobs, yet he abhors the thought of his work being turned into profit by another business. Maybe now he understands why Ned, Hosmer and the Royals treat the media like they do. They have the same view of people using their copyrighted work for profit as Kevin.

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37 Responses to OTC: Hosmer Remains Royals Pet But Also Becoming The Media’s Target / Kietzman Is Not Fair Game For Your Jokes

  1. Jim says:

    KK had to be that annoying, nerdy kid that everybody made fun of in school. His insecurity about anyone saying anything negative or teasing him comes through loud and clear. Now that he has been successful, he can’t STAND the fact that he isn’t respected by anyone outside the comfy confines of 810WHB.

    • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

      +1000 JIM NAILS IT PERFECTLY!

    • Mike says:

      …by anyone outside the comfy confines of Between The Lines.

      There. Fixed it.

    • The Independent Rage says:

      I have respect for the tremendous success he’s had in this market over the years. But he’s done it by being a complete jackass most of the time. He’s one of those media types that I would never want to meet in real life. Life’s too short for that headache.

    • rkcal says:

      In addition, KK has no sense of humor or ability to be self-deprecating. The fact he’s been on top for so long says something. I just don’t know if it’s about him or KC.

    • TiberiusGracchus says:

      +1….Q old man kissel lame retort.

  2. Tim says:

    Hey Mr Hall, I love your writing. I enjoy your tweets as well. Question, any idea where the ratings are between 810 and 610? I can never find the data. Thanks! Tim

    • Kyle R says:

      810 doesn’t publish ratings so anything you see is conjecture.

    • Greg Hall says:

      Tim,
      810 no longer subscribes to Arbitron (a very expensive service) and therefore they do not appear in their ratings books. 610 is part of the Entercom group and they do show up in the Arbitron ratings. While 610’s ratings don’t stack up well in the overall category against all stations, they garner a big enough slice of the sports radio audience to be a worthy part of Entercom’s KC radio portfolio. It is my understanding that Kansas City is a rare sports talk radio market in how well both stations do in the ratings.

  3. Kyle R says:

    Greg,

    You’re going a bit far to suggest that Collin Klein is going to have a shorter and/or more difficult, pain-filled life due to playing college football. There are plenty of former football players who do…but they typically aren’t guys that played QB and never got a shot in the NFL. The short amount of time he spent getting hit leads me to believe he’s got an excellent chance of living a completely normal life, beyond perhaps some shoulder or knee soreness that’s atypical for a mid-20’s guy.

    Much as I hate to say it, I agree with KK on this one. Klein got a free education, the opportunity to go from obscure farm kid and Heisman finalist, be the most popular guy on campus and he’ll be revered in Manhattan until the day he dies, just like Tommy Frazier at Nebraska. What’s all that worth? Plus, he’s got a great job on the staff at KSU. So tell me again why he deserves to be paid additionally? And does he deserve more money than the O-Line that helped make him a star? Or the D that ensured he had the ball to go score with?

    As for Frank Boal saying KU fans don’t care what happens to guys once they hit the NBA, that’s ludicrous. There’s a reason every NBA preseason game that comes to KC includes former Jayhawks.

    • Gavin says:

      Ugh. It is not about Collllllin Klein. We can all find one guy, or five guys, that support the argument that college players have the cushiest gig in the whole wide world. The thing the Colllllin Klein example belies is the 432,895 (official number as of last season) other guys who did worked every bit as hard and had every bit as much talent but blew out a knee their freshman year and had their scholarship taken away or who got “run off” (a legally defined technical term) by their new coach when the coach who recruited them left Big State to take a job as offensive coordinator with an NFL squad (or whatever) and the kid had no greatly reduced options and no scholarship to fall back on.

      Colllllin Klein is a fantastic story and the only grudge I bear against him is the ridiculous spelling of his name. Good on him for everything he’s earned. truly and I mean it. But anyone who thinks that he’s the norm and uses him as the shining example of why college football doesn’t need cleaning up or evidence why college football players shouldn’t be paid probably also believes that Olympic sprinters never used steroids and that Tiger Woods is a really nice guy.

      • Kyle Fan says:

        You seem really bitter about Collin Klein. He spells his name the same as most other Collins. Too bad he didn’t play for KU, right? There’s a reason I’m not a Gavin fan!

      • Kyle R says:

        You’re right, Gavin, and I didn’t mean to imply all situations are like Klein’s. There are absolutely some changes I believe should be made, including:
        – No selling merchandise with that player’s number/nickname/likeness, including video games
        – Five-year scholarships guaranteed unless the university decides to expel. Having a fifth year paid for helps cover either a redshirt and/or additional classes the player didn’t have time for while playing
        – No oversigning
        – Class/major problem ID’d by the Northwestern QB fixed – again, not sure what the solution is but there’s got to be a reasonable one.
        – Restricted spending on facilities/coaches + TV money goes to the school, not the AD – I’m not sure how to do that but the insane spending in those areas is part of what’s causing this debate and if the majority of that money went to the school itself, and not the AD, it’d be a better deal.

        Beyond that though, I’m still not ready to give more than that. With the changes I listed, kids can make a conscious decision to take an athletic scholarship, knowing they’re going to make some sacrifices for the sport but also get incredible benefits, including a degree that 99+% of them NEED for future employment, if they choose to take advantage of all the opportunities they get academically. If some don’t, that’s not anybody’s fault but theirs, just like the 25%+ dropout rate of regular college students.

        • Gavin says:

          If you can implement those fixes, I think you have a workable solution in place. And some of the thornier issues are pretty easy too.

          For example, the class/major problems that were clearly pointed out by the Northwestern QB can be arbitrated by a panel. There could be a group of ombudsmen appointed to represent the interests of the student and if the student has a conflict with the coach, they submit it for review and the panel decides if the class or practice should be taken. You will hear lots and lots of bitching about how the pointy-headed academics are getting between a boy and his coach but whatever. Let the coach make his case that practice is more valuable than the organic chem class that he promised the kid who he knew wanted to be a pre-med major and let the coach tell the panel which class is a suitable alternative.

          As for the money, it’s just like you said. It goes to the school, not the AD. Make the athletic departments be part of the school again and all revenues from sports are part of the school’s budget to be administered by the Chancellor/President/Etc.

          The problem is that these common sense reforms will never, ever, not ever in a million, kajillion years happen because they will reduce the level of competition. You think Bill Self will still be coaching at KU when he has to take a pay cut to something like $300k? Will Bob Stoops still be at OU? Most coaches will bolt for a big (i.e., professional) paycheck as soon as they can. Facilities at colleges will deteriorate because athletic budgets will dwindle so kids won’t be lured by college and kids will flock to Europe (like Brandon Jennings) or the D-league. They’ll play football only as little as they can in college just biding their time until they can go pro and the football itself won’t be as good simply because staffs will be smaller and less well-paid. Networks won’t pay as much for an inferior product, so the product will, by necessity, get worse.

          So your reforms, which sound great, and which I would support in principle, won’t happen. The money is the linchpin.

    • Brummy says:

      i agree to a point, but Klein took a BEATING in college. He run up the middle and fought for every yard. I don’t recall ever seeing him slide like most QB (I’m sure he did)

      I’m somewhere in the middle of the athlete payment issue. Universities give out many scholarships, while the rest of us pay the inflated costs to make up the difference. Is it really a $120k value? Many of these athletes are directed to degrees that don’t require much time so they can work/spend more time on their sport (McCants African studies)….these degrees are basically worthless in earning much of a living. The value the school gets versus what the student gets in my opinion is not equal. There are very few who come out with a premed degree (it happens but not often).

      Like most issues,. I don’t think it is black or white (not race but clear cut). I feel resolution is somewhere in the middle.

      • Mike says:

        No!!! We do not pay the difference. The university’s athletic department budget is separate from that of the university’s general fund. The athletic dept also forces their well-heeled to contribute to their athletics endowment in order to get preferable treatment and access at games. That’s where the athletes’ scholarships come from.
        What you and I paid in tuition had zero to do with how many scholarships were given to athletes.
        The issue at play for the Collin Kleins of the world are NIL-based (NameImageLikeness), and the policy of the NCAA to price-fix scholarships to tuition, room and board in maximum one-year increments, with the athletic department holding the yearly option, not the athlete.

        It’s more than a jingoistic ‘pay-the-players’ argument that your hear that fucking moron Kietzman trumpet. (He does a great job at using reductive reasoning to dumb down an issue into a total incorrect mess. Worse yet, Clinkscale doesn’t call out kk on that bullshit, which makes me think DC isn’t perhaps as smart as he thinks he is.) It’s an antitrust issue that the NCAA has cloaked in amateurism, just as they made up crap to restrict (and defend) basketball assistant coach salaries 15 years ago, all the while they trumpet ‘free-market’ principles when doling out ever-larger, and ever-ostentatious, salaries to AD’s, athletics executive staff, university presidents, football-basketball coaches, and NCAA executives.
        They use policy to collude on restraint-of-trade practices to hold down athlete costs, and it’s wrong. (See: the athlete meal policy recently amended as an example of this. e.g. The Shabazz Napier Rule.)

        • Gavin says:

          Nails it.

        • Brummy says:

          The ‘many scholarships’ I’m referring to are non-athletic scholarships as well. I didn’t realize that a portion of the separate budget goes back to the school to pay the teachers, etc.

          In reality, I don’t know how much the scholarships raise tuition for the rest. The real issue in the inflated cost of tuition is the funding cuts by states over the years…(don’t want to start that fight).

        • Tigerpiper says:

          Very well said.

    • Kyle Fan says:

      Oh Kyle…(sigh)..

    • DodgerHawki says:

      You pose good questions. The issue is people disagree with what the answers are/should be. There is certainly value in getting a free education and being known throughout a state/region for the rest of your life. Klein seems like a solid adult and will likely be successful as a coach if that’s what he wants to do.

      But is that just compensation for the (literally) millions of dollars that K-State brought in due to the success of the football team during Klein’s days as a player? Some would say yes, others no. I’ve always been on the side that a free education/room and board is a good tradeoff. But I can start to see the other side when all of the adults involved (head coaches who make millions, assistants who make six figures or 1M per year, athletic directors and the myriad associate athletic directors who make six figures) all become wealthy and the players get a free education. The free education is great, but the absolute money gobble by the athletic departments is what is causing people to be more sympathetic to the players.

      The professors in the music department are well-compensated (relatively) compared to the music students getting a scholarship, but nowhere near the disparity between the head football coach and the players. I’m not much for the income inequailty stuff (you earn what you deserve) but in the case of college sports the business model is set up to prevent players from making money (perhaps unjustly). Why shouldn’t Klein have been able to receive money from sales of his jersey at the K-State bookstore? That makes no sense to me.

  4. Java Man says:

    10 minutes of KK was enough for my monthly fill this afternoon. Talking about this Royals broadcast survey. KK had high remarks for Ryan, but wouldn’t mention the other guys by name. “You know who I’m talking about”.
    He’ll beat the hell out of players in this town with innuendo and half ass gossip, but not one of his own kind.

  5. Mysterious.j says:

    Brazil has won 5 World Cup titles…Germany has won 3 (all as West Germany). You do the math. You are not the only person who has been putting out blatantly incorrect data about the World Cup in the last month, but that doesn’t excuse not taking 30 seconds to verify a fact on a subject you obviously don’t known nearly as much about as you think.

  6. Joe Blow says:

    So Mike Boddicker, very average MLB pitcher, is saying he’s a better hitter than Hosmer? WTF?! Who listens to this guy seriously?

  7. Mike says:

    Kietzman’s insecurity and narcissism are about as transparent and robust as the Kool-Aid Man.
    BTL’s first 10-15 minutes today was quite pathetic radio. I had no problem shutting it off at that time.

  8. david says:

    No post of KK claiming Salvy and Hosmer aren’t deserving of Gold Gloves based on KK’s high school baseball experience? Clickscale playing right along calling them lazy fielders. That was some funny radio.

  9. Splitlog Quindaro says:

    KK will go down as one of the most influential sports media figures in KC History-Definitely top 5***KK is also very easy on Currie… Turned him into Steve Jobs on Tuesday*** Look at Butlers stats since HS.. nothing very special and he did better when he was a position player*** How many pallets of Billys BBQ sauce are sitting around in Price Chopper Backrooms?***Soccer got a lot of new customers in the past month.. a lot*** Americans are tacky? How about Matching 3 Piece suits in hot humid Brazil***Speaking of which… Why are Ryder Cup outfits always so bad? Let them wear their own duds*** Clock officially ticking on Tiger now… my early call is that Jack keeps his record a long time***Awesome Chiefs schedule this year.. great teams coming to town… Home victories will be very meaningful this year***

  10. Kansas Marine says:

    Greg, your take on KK hit the nail on the head. If you want to know the ethos of a Kietzman statement, look no further than his love for KSU (or hatred of all things Kansas). The unbelievable thing – he claims to be unbiased! Kevin will do everything in his power to protect KSU’s golden goose (Bill Snyder & KSU football) while tearing down all things KU. It’s an embarrassing act that’s grown quite old.

    • BlackJack says:

      The things is, KK actually has the audacity to claim (many times, on the radio) that he is so unbiased when it comes to his coverage of K-State, that he actually goes overboard and is guilty of presenting a “reverse -bias” against his alma mater; so much so that he may KSU fans are disgruntled with him and call him out on a daily basis.

      Absolute pure hogwash – I have never heard Kietzman utter any negative criticism leveled at anyone of power at K-State.

  11. Juan Pablo says:

    I agree Colin Klein may have a rough life. you can look up stories where he got knocked out of the Ok st, game and did not remember a TD he scored and Snyder had him playing the next week. I don’t think anyone would let that happen today.
    He took to many hits .

  12. Tigerpiper says:

    KK’s stupid argument that colleges can’t make “profit” because they are non-profit organizations took the cake for me this week. The very next segment he had Currie on and lauded him for how “profitable” KSU sports is. So one second he uses a narrow definition of “profit” then within five minutes uses a broader one. Ignoring the fact that by “profit” everyone means the coaches, admins etc (e.g. Currie makes $575k/year, Self makes $$$$$$). KK, you dolt, you don’t think Currie, Snyder etc are “profiting” from the free labor of their players? You don’t think a non-profit can’t “profit” just because it doesn’t have shareholders?

  13. red says:

    Can’t believe I am saying this, but I actually agree with KK with regard to showing little kids crying. I just seems like a form of bullying to me. No one wants to have to worry about taking their young children to games for fear that they will get upset and then be the laughing stock on espn, the internet and their school for the next few years. Adults and older kids can fend for themselves.

  14. geoknows says:

    What does it mean to be “simply yet deep?” I didn’t get that. I must be slow today.

  15. nick says:

    FRANK BOAL: “Most KU fans don’t care about how good Andrew Wiggins is in the NBA.”

    Don’t agree. He’s a Jayhawk forever, despite only playing 1 year. I hope he’s an NBA star. I’ve been anti-Lebron since The Decision, but am hoping James goes to the Cavs so I can watch more Wiggins on TV.

    GREG HALL: “Collin Klein is the most important reason that Kansas State has been able to spend the millions of dollars in facility upgrades the past few years. His play for four years was worth millions to KSU. History tells us that the beatings he took as the Wildcats quarterback will likely haunt him as he ages. For Kietzman to say that Klein was adequately compensated for his contributions to Kansas State is embarrassing.”

    When spun like this, AFTER the fact, yes, Klein seems to have gotten a little short-changed. Todd Reesing probably got short-changed in 2008. Shabazz Napier deserved more than a scholarship last year after leading his team the Championship. But conversely, should Todd Reesing give back money to KU after his miserable senior year? Should Marcus Smart give money back to OSU after last year? Maybe Nick Collison should give his scholarship money back to KU after missing a ton of free throws in the 2003 Championship game.

    “Mike” nails it pretty well above. The money spent on salaries for AD’s, coaches, and the numerous assistants and trainers, etc., is getting WAY out of hand. The incredible facilities that these kids get to train, live and play in are at absurd levels. The star college football and basketball players get treated like kings. They see fans wearing their #”s on jerseys and likenesses in video games. They start thinking, and I don’t blame them one bit, that they’re worth more than their 4-year scholarship.

  16. R.H. says:

    “Most KU fans don’t care about how good Andrew Wiggins is in the NBA.”
    Frank Boal, 810 AM

    Frank…stop it. Just stop it. He needs more Oklahoma Joe’s in his tummy.

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