“You cannot look at the (MU) schedule and count wins because they just lost to the team a lot of people thought was the worst team in the conference and another that just suited up seven players.”
Gabe DeArmond, on MU’s loss at home to woeful Georgia and their loss Thursday night at Vandy, 810 AM
GH: What started out as a surprise season for Mizzou basketball with their 12-1 start and a home win over UCLA has quickly eroded into an SEC nightmare. Frank Haith was supposed to cruise to the NCAA tourney on the heels of his gaudy non-con record and the awfulness that is SEC basketball. But everything changed when Mizzou’s home-win streak was snapped by a poor Georgia team, a bad Auburn team pushed MU to the brink and then Vandy beat the Tigers with seven players. The second semester hasn’t even begun in Columbia but Haith’s seat just got a lot hotter.
“Mizzou had been the first team out of the poll after the Georgia loss and isn’t likely to climb back in now even with a win against Bama.”
Tod Palmer, @todpalmer, on MU playing Alabama (8-8) at Mizzou Arena Saturday at 1:00 PM, Twitter
GH: The SEC basketball schedule is the exact opposite than football. Playing conference games hurts your chances at climbing up the polls, not helps.
“Even with Missouri’s 12-1 start, it is going to take at least 11-7 in this league to get you into the NCAA tournament. I think this is a three-bid league.”
Gabe DeArmond, 810 AM
GH: I heard Dave Armstrong say he thinks the Big 12 will place eight teams in the NCAA tourney this spring. We here in Kansas City are finding out firsthand just how awful SEC basketball is on a number of levels. I had no idea it would be this bad.
“Missouri’s offensive decision making just hasn’t been very good tonight. … Shot selection just has not been very good the entire evening for Missouri.”
Mike Kelly, radio play-by-play voice of Missouri basketball, during the second half of the Vanderbilt loss, Tiger Radio Network
GH: I listened to Kelly’s play-by-play for much of this game. He sounded professional but disgusted with much of the Tigers play. I appreciated that he did not try to blame Vandy, the refs or anything else. He was pointing his finger at Mizzou. Some like their college play-by-play guys to be homers. I do not.
“Vandy is a tired team right now!”
Gary Link, radio analyst for Mizzou basketball, Tiger Radio Network
GH: Link must have mentioned how tired and weary Vanderbilt’s seven players were ten times in the second half. He sounded like he was trying to verbally will these guys to drop over from fatigue to allow MU to win. It never happened. Link is way too much of a cheerleader for my ears.
“Mizzou players consistently blamed defensive mistakes, ‘confusion on D’ & miscommunication for tonight’s loss.”
Dave Matter, writer for the St. Louis Post Dispatch, Twitter
GH: Sounds like a coaching problem to me.
“Mizzou missed 12 layups according to the shot chart and was 6 of 23 from 3-point range.”
Tod Palmer, @todpalmer, MU beat writer for The Kansas City Star, on MU’s performance at Vandy, Twitter
GH: Sounds like a shitty players’ problem to me.
“Obviously, whatever the issue is it’s more important to Frank Haith than wins and losses. Because you’ve got to think that Tony Criswell could have helped (at Vanderbilt).”
Gabe DeArmond, on Criswell playing only 10 minutes against the Commodores, 810 AM
GH: Haith isn’t playing one of MU’s best players? So let’s find out why, Gabe! PowerMizzou.com is a paid service for Mizzou insider info and I expect those who pay would like to know. Or maybe Gabe was saving what he knows for his subscribers?
“Haith isn’t blameless, but like most college coaches, fans assign too much of it to him IMO.”
Gabe DeArmond, @GabeDeArmond, Twitter
GH: IMO college athletic departments assign too much salary to mediocre coaches. If Haith is cashing his checks, he deserves the heat from the MU fans.
“Far too often people associate losing with not trying, caring or playing hard. Teams don’t always win, but almost no player doesn’t want to.”
Gabe DeArmond, @GabeDeArmond, Twitter
GH: Wanting to win is rarely the issue – unless you’re Shoeless Joe Jackson. (I can imagine the seamheads queuing up now to defend SJJ’s memory.) Wanting to win is not enough. Paying the price to prepare to win and then making the effort during the game is what Mizzou fans are questioning about this Frank Haith team. This is such a puzzle to me. Haith’s first team was so, so, so fun to watch. He played that small lineup with Kim English guarding big guys and Phil Pressey dazzling us with his floor game. This version of the Tigers looks like Haith got his players mixed up with the MU wrestling team.
“One of the many good things about being in the SEC is nobody else in the conference gives you a bunch of grief for losing basketball games.”
GH: This is sad. Tiger fans are now relegated to being happy they can suffer their basketball losses without KU fans tweeting them nasty notes? It is NOT progress that no one in the SEC cares enough about basketball that you are left to suffer in silence. It’s a damn shame.
“This is all you need to know about the Big 12 – and this is no disrespect to the players or the coach. Bruce Weber is 19-2 since he got to K-State. This can’t be a great league because that’s not a great team. That’s a good team. That’s a good coach. But it can’t be a great league if Bruce Weber with his players at K-State has gone 19-2 against the rest of this league (outside of KU) since he got here. There’s no way this is a great league. I like the Big 12 and I’m trying to be fair here. There’s no way this is the best league! That’s impossible!”
Kevin Kietzman, 810 AM
GH: Kietzman is just a weird, sad dude. He is so frustrated with his Wildcats and Weber not being able to beat or be competitive with Bill Self and Kansas that he feels the need to diminish and disregard all the great wins and play that Weber has brought to Kansas State in his first two seasons – not to mention KSU’s first conference basketball title since 1977!
“You can say that but I think there are plenty of other teams that we hail as great and the Big 12 goes out and plays some of these schools in the non-conference and beats them. … I think this league has comparable teams to the top five in the Big 10. … I didn’t think K-State would beat Oklahoma State or Gonzaga, so I’m done dissing K-State.”
Jason King, college basketball writer for BleacherReport.com, responding to Kietzman comment about Big 12 basketball, 810 AM
“Never realized how much more unsettling Willie the Wildcat is without shoulder pads and football pants. Must have had a horrible childhood.”
David Ubben, @davidubben, Twitter
GH: Isn’t it time K-State ditched Willy and got a real mascot? Or at least one with a complete outfit? Willy looks more like a guy heading home from a Halloween party than a DI mascot.
“If (Baylor’s) Scott Drew is the worst coach in your league, and I think you can make a pretty good case that he is, you’ve got a pretty good league!”
Danny Clinkscale, 810 AM
GH: No college coach gets more disrespect around the Big 12 than Homer’s kid. But would Mizzou take what Drew’s done at Baylor? I can’t think of too many struggling programs that wouldn’t be happy with a perennial top-20 team that typically disappoints in the end.
“If Wiggins isn’t in foul trouble I think you’re going to see him on Marcus Smart a lot.”
Rustin Dodd, Kansas beat writer for the Kansas City Star, 810 AM
GH: Oklahoma State will be at Allen Fieldhouse Saturday afternoon and this matchup between Smart and Wiggins will be one the nation will be tuning in to watch. Wiggins has shown he plays at a different level when he’s challenged so we should see him at his best. Smart always plays like it’s his last game and he is the guy who was doing backflips after OSU’s win at AFH last season so he will be one of the crowd’s favorite targets. 3:00 PM on CBS.
“Will say this once (until someone gets hurt): There is no proper etiquette for court storm. You paid for seat, not to invade playing field.”
Michael DeCourcy, @tsnmike, Twitter
GH: Will say this once…or maybe 437 times: people in the media who chastise college kids for storming their home court after a win are far more embarrassing than a few hundred kids having fun. Let’s harken back to the great Frank Haith’s words of wisdom; “Cool will get you beat.” Quit trying to be so cool everybody and let the college kids be kids.
“I’ve had a lot of people ask what Omaha means. Omaha is a run play but it could be a pass play or a play-action pass, depending on a couple things; the wind, which way we’re going, the quarter, and uh the jerseys that we’re wearing. So it varies really, play to play. So, there’s your answer to that one.”
Peyton Manning, WDAF TV FOX 4
GH: When I hear Peyton yell my hometown’s name I think of all the other neighborhoods and suburbs he could also promote. Familiar neighborhoods like Benson, Dundee, Little Italy, Sheelytown, Field Club, Ralston, Millard and my old stomping grounds – South Omaha or Brown Park. Omaha isn’t known for a lot of grandeur or as a popular destination so it’s fun for me to see Peyton give it 15 minutes of fame. I know the folks up north are enjoying it as well. Maybe we can get Alex Smith to yell, “Strawberry Hill,” next season.
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