OTC: K-State Gets A Rare Win Over Kansas / 810’s Border Patrol Needs An Enema

BgKywB7CUAABGWr“Toughest win I’ve ever seen from a #KState basketball team. Overcoming their collapse at end of regulation…big time.”
BJ Kissel, @bkissel7, following K-State’s 85-82 overtime win over Kansas, Twitter

“We deserved to win today.”
Bruce Weber, 810 AM
GH: Bruce Weber has a history with Bill Self and it is not a successful one. It appeared to me that Weber wanted this one just as much as his K-State fan base. Read on.

“I don’t have to hear, ‘When you gonna beat ‘em?’ anymore! Now we’re back at the top of the league. We gotta stay there. … The number one question was, ‘When are you going to beat Kansas?’ Well, we did!”
Bruce Weber, on his first win at KSU over KU, 810 AM

“They’re not at the top of the league. KU still has a two-game lead on (K-State).”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: The Border Patrol spent a great deal of their Tuesday show discussing the KU/KSU game and how Weber and the fans from both schools reacted to the rare K-State win. I found it highly entertaining radio – but incredibly one-sided. Read on.

“A lot of other coaches, I don’t think they would have said that. If Bob Huggins beat Kansas I don’t think Bob Huggins goes, ‘Well, we finally beat Kansas! I don’t have to worry about that anymore!’”
Arron Swarts, expressing his displeasure with Weber saying he won’t have to hear about beating Kansas anymore, 810 AM
GH: The Border Patrol needs an enema – or at least a cleansing of all the one-sided Kansas Jayhawk BS that emanates from KU fans like Nate Bukaty, Aaron Swarts and Jake Gutierrez. Steven St. John and his Missouri ties have lost a lot of his value to the morning show when it comes to discussing KU and KSU as rivals. With three KU fans in the room and one Mizzou guy, Kansas State gets completely overlooked and often trashed without a proper counterpuncher. I would dump Swarts and bring in a K-State guy who thinks Lawrence and Columbia are remote Sochi toilets.  

“Kirk Schultz, the president of K-State, like to talk trash on Twitter and especially about KU. He likes to talk trash. One night he was sending out all kinds of sarcastic tweets about KU and KU fans and stuff like that. It didn’t make me mad. I think it’s cute that the president of a major university takes a picture of the scoreboard and says, ‘I’ve got my Christmas card.’ That’s the biggest moment of the year for him. I think it’s cute, it’s a nice little story there. I don’t have any problem with it. I feel kind of bad for him that for the next ten months nothing’s going to get any better for him. That’s a high-water mark for the whole year.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: Bukaty came off as one of the whinier Jayhawks with a microphone I’ve heard since I last listened to Bob Davis.

“You get to do stuff like that when you win four games out of 52.”
Jake Gutierrez, 810 AM
GH: Bukaty mentioned that a number of the texts he was receiving from listeners included the message, “butt hurt KU fans.” It sure sounded to me like there was a lot of ass cramping going on inside TBP studio this morning.

“The coaching is actually closer in this game than the talent. Everywhere (Kansas State) lines up the guy guarding you is better than you.”
Kevin Kietzman, prior to the Kansas/K-State game Monday night, 810 AM
GH: Kansas fans have the perfect rival coach in Bruce Weber. He is highly unlikable to those not wearing purple in how he has never been a Bill Self fan and the bad feelings appear to be mutual. Read on.

“Somehow K-State people saw this as a slap in the face last night when I tweeted that the last time I saw K-State dancing on the table after beating Kansas, Kansas went on to win the national championship. I was just pointing out that it doesn’t have to ruin KU’s season.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: So Nate cannot understand why KSU fans would see that as a slap in the face but he is butt hurt over KSU’s president tweeting out pictures of his 2014 Christmas card? I can smell Nate’s burnt ass from here.

“Even in victory a lot of K-State fans can’t be happy.”
Arron Swarts, complaining about the listeners who were upset that the KU faction on The Border Patrol was not giving KSU enough credit for their win over KU, 810 AM

“Some people can’t be happy unless they’re mad. … How many times do we have to talk about how great K-State was last night?”
Nate Bukaty, responding to Swarts’ comment, 810 AM
GH: Is this show SCREAMING for a Kansas State voice or what?

“They have an airport in Manhattan now, too. … How is that a smart-ass comment? No matter what I say you’re going to act like it’s a smart-ass comment.”
Nate Bukaty, after SSJ mentioned that Bruce Weber was at the airport this morning at 5:30 AM to go recruit and then told Nate his “airport” comment sounded like he was being a smart-ass, 810 AM

“K-State shows video of K-State fans rushing the court after a win over Kansas in Bramlage.”
D. Scott Fritchen, @DScottFritchen, on the video playing during the KU/KSU game, Twitter
GH: Kansas State fans did storm the court at Bramlage after their OT win over KU and it set off a Twitter firestorm over how real fans know that court storming is for amateurs. And I would agree – but who is more of an amateur than kids in college looking for something fun to do in the middle of a Midwest winter? Storm on, I say!

“3-23 in your home gym vs ‘rival’ — you can court storm.”
Josh Klingler, @joshklingler, Twitter

“For all the #ku fans carrying on about #kstate storming the court now…you beat #kstate in football…you storm the field. Period.”
DeAnn Smith, @DeAnnSmithkc, Twitter
GH: Would KU rush the field at Memorial Stadium after beating Bill Snyder? Like those zombies in a Brad Pitt movie.

“Still the best part about being a #kubball fan? I have no idea what it’s like to rush the court.”
Gavin Fritton, @gavinesq, Twitter
GH: Kansas has made it almost impossible (or at least very difficult) for their students to storm the court. They have placed them in raised sections 10-feet off the ground and 30 feet or so behind the baskets. A student court stormer at Allen Fieldhouse would have to leap off the 10-foot drop and then have to carefully navigate between and past a phalanx of wheelchairs and press tables before making it to the court. KU fans might be too proper to foul their own nest with a court storming but they have also almost guaranteed it won’t happen with how they have trapped their student body.

“Bill Self looks prison-angry. Like someone stole his smokes while he was lifting in the yard.”
Jeff Rosen, @jeff_rosen88, KC Star sports editor, Twitter
GH: I just loved this mental image. Rosen should write more and edit less.

“Bold move from ESPN cameras lingering for almost 10 seconds on the K-State fan flashing double birds to Sandstorm.”
David Ubben, @davidubben, Twitter
GH: The crowd chanting, “Fuck KU!” could also be heard through my television speakers. And we are all surprised at the problems Marcus Smart had with Jeff Orr over the weekend at Texas Tech? College basketball invites this kind of behavior and deserves it when it blows up in their public relations office.

“Foster sprains ankle and fans boo refs for 89th time of the game…u lose the effectiveness of ‘booing’ when u do it when it’s not justified.”
Chad Fleming, @cflem24, Twitter

“So I’ve got irrational KState AND KU fans mad at me after a basketball game. Every college fan base has thousands of Jeff Orr’s.”
Danny Parkins, @DannyParkins, Twitter

“Wiggins floats through games too much. Needs to get some nasty to his approach.”
Ivan Carter, @IvanCarter9, Twitter
GH: Carter’s description of what bothers many of us who want more from Wiggins is perfect. He  appears to float when we would like to see him driving a speed boat out there.

“That second jump is something that Wiggins can do better than anyone maybe on planet Earth.”
CJ Moore, @CJMooreBR, as Wiggins put back his missed lay-up late in the game, Twitter

“Know how many college players could have done what Wiggins just did? One. The guy who did it. What we’ve been talking about all year.”
Michael DeCourcy, @tsnmike, Twitter
GH: Great, great play. I could not believe it was Wiggins who made the put-back shot until I saw the replay. But I expect more than one or two great plays from a one-and-done top-three draft pick.

“Been awhile since #kstate had flat faster guards than #kubball.”
Curtis Kitchen, @curtiskitchen, Twitter
GH: If Wiggins played with Foster’s motor – oh what a player we would see.

“Man, I have to really work overtime to talk myself into believing you can win a national title with Naadir Tharpe at OG. I’m trying, though.”
Michael DeCourcy, @tsnmike, Twitter
GH: Tharpe catches a lot of crap for his play but that kid once again kept Kansas within striking distance by hitting a number of big shots late. But he still does not look the part, does he?

“What worries you is could (Naadir Tharpe) execute a play and get us a shot when we absolutely need it. Can he not turn the ball over in a crucial moment. Really, that’s what it comes down to. It doesn’t come down to what did he do the first 30 minutes of the game, it’s what he does the last ten minutes and how he controls a really tight situation. What does Naadir do in the last waning moments to make sure that his team gets a shot that we all want?”
Ryan Robertson, former KU guard, on whether or not Tharpe can lead KU to postseason success, 810 AM

“I would still take Wiggins over Foster (on the All-Big 12 team). I think that Wiggins makes a bigger impact defensively.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: I would take Foster, but there is still a lot of basketball to be played.

“Holly Rowe, that’s what I call hustle! She straight hopped up on the scorer’s table.”
Rob Dauster, @RobDauster, as Rowe climbed up on the scorer’s table to interview Gipson during the K-State postgame celebration, Twitter
GH: If Rowe interviews Richard Sherman instead of Erin Andrews, that interview might still be going on. Rowe was armpit deep in K-State players and she never flinched. Great stuff from The Sports Siren.

“Huge thank you to the #KStateMBB folks on scorers table who helped pull me to safety and looked out for me. Kindness so appreciated!”
Holly Rowe, @sportsiren, Twitter

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90 Responses to OTC: K-State Gets A Rare Win Over Kansas / 810’s Border Patrol Needs An Enema

  1. Zed says:

    Winning a college basketball game at home is not that big of a deal. most teams win a high percentage of them . even TCU beat KU last year.

  2. Big D in the O says:

    “I don’t have to hear, ‘When you gonna beat ‘em?’ anymore! Now we’re back at the top of the league. We gotta stay there. … The number one question was, ‘When are you going to beat Kansas?’ Well, we did!”
    Bruce Weber, on his first win at KSU over KU, 810 AM

    What I heard in that sound bite was “Now we’re back at the top END of the league.” He certainly wasn’t claiming that we were at the top. Bukaty played the clip and then made a big production about it. The problem with talking heads. They never shut up and listen. Squeeky voice aside I heard it pretty clearly.

    • Alphonse Tooty says:

      Of course that’s what Weber meant. I wish KU would go ahead and hire Bukaty, which is what he really, really, really, really wants, and get his ass off the air.

      • Big D in the O says:

        He does work for them. He does some of the lesser sporting events I believe. Maybe even sideline stuff for Football. I honeslty don’t mind him and it was fun listening to him this morning really because the more he tried to brush off the loss the more he sounded bent about it.

        • Alphonse Tooty says:

          I know that he does womens basketball and sideline football, but I’m talking about a fulltime gig. He won’t talk openly about KU-related issues for fear of pissing them off. I rather enjoy his baseball analysis but his college coverage is way too predictable and thus, worthless.

  3. Gavin says:

    Wow. It’s just a regular festival of thrown poo around here today, innit?
    K-Sate won. Good on ‘em. I’m comforted by the fact that it took their absolute A+++ game at home in front of a stoked crowd and that Joel Embiid had to be beat flatter than hammered shit and that we STILL took them to overtime for them to win. That’s not me being butthurt. K-State won and they won fair and square. When KU beat Oklahoma a few years ago and Blake Griffin was hurt, I didn’t suggest that we give it back or that the win was somehow tainted. It was just as fair when we beat North Carolina absent Kendal Marshall. So, go EMAW or whatever they say.

    But the reason the court storming is a bit assonant to me is that K-State keeps demanding all this respect. Last year they called themselves “Titletown” and they practically demanded that everyone else do so as well. They will happily remind anyone who cares to ask that they’re the defending Big XII co-champions. They so desperately crave status as being big league. Which they are. But then they go and act so bush league. If KU ever beats K-State in football there absolutely WILL be a field-storming because, when it comes to football, KU is about as minor league as it can possibly get. We are BCS (or whatever it’s called now) pretty much in affiliation only. So OF COURSE we would storm the field. But the Wildcats are the defending league champions and they COMMAND YOUR RESPECT AS SUCH. But then they act like they’ve never done it before.

    Lookit, K-State, act how you want. Act the fool and like this makes up for decades, literal decades, of constant drubbing if that’s what you want to do. You don’t have to impress me. But if you want to be big time, if you really want to be taken seriously and have people think that you’ve been there before, then maybe ACT like you’ve been there before. Again, you don’t have to impress me. My opinion doesn’t matter. But don’t demand that you be treated as an equal when you act like this is somehow winning the national championship.

    • Kyle says:

      Well said Gavin. As usual.

    • EMAW says:


    • sporty says:

      Wow, Gavin, you are pretty bitter, huh? K-State won the game depending on bench players. Marcus Smart was out quite a bit of the second half. Shane Southwell was pretty much a non factor. Hardly their A game. KU fans acting all high and mighty is the best part of K-State winning and enjoying the win. It’s a GAME. Grow up!

      • sporty says:

        Marcus Foster, lol. I.m watching OSU-Texas.

      • Gavin says:

        Sporty, you’ve gotta either concentrate a lot harder or stop trying entirely. I’m not bitter. K-State beat us and they won fair and square. It happens. They have my congratulations and those are sincere. But if you think that K-State didn’t get a huge charge from their home crowd and if you don’t think that they played out of their skulls better, then you must have figured out how to distill booze from sorghum mash. Foster was out as much as he was because he was cramping up from, say it with me, playing absolute balls out, teeth first, go-out-and-get-it-big-boy basketball. He had to sit out some, but that was absolutely an A+++ game. And bench guys stepping up when called on is, sort of definitionally, an A++++ game where the team is concerned. ANd if you don’t think that it took that level of amped up attitude, how do you explain the vastly different results between what happened in the Bram versus what happened in Allen?

        And, despite all of that, KU still nearly won the game. Am I disappointed in the outcome? Sure. I want my team to win every game it plays. But I can live with it and not be filled with rancor or bitterness.

    • yoda says:

      strong in this one is the butthurt

    • OlatheCat says:

      When I was a student at K-State in the early 90’s we rushed the court every time we beat a ranked team. We rushed against OU, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, etc. It’s just something college students do. It wasn’t plastered all over the news or sports media at the time because the games weren’t on ESPN or whatever. I think people that bash on students for rushing the court or field have never been a college student in that atmosphere before.

      As for the printing and selling of t-shirts…I think it’s kinda bush league, but obviously people buy them otherwise they wouldn’t be selling them. People that worry about stuff like this need to find something better to do.

      People are people. Every fan base is made up of the same cross section of personalities. To bash on someone else for what they do or don’t do is dumb.

  4. OlatheCat says:

    The Border Patrol absolutely needs an enema and has for quite some time. St. John hates K-State, too, and I’ve always mentioned to buddies that I don’t listen because of all the K-State bashing that goes on, whether sarcastically or not. I just choose not to listen most mornings, although I did listen to most of the show yesterday and Greg is spot on about what went down. It was kind of entertaining, kind of irritating and kind of sickening all rolled into one.

  5. BlackJack says:

    I wouldn’t worry too much about the lack of K-State representation on the morning show, ’cause it is more than made up for in the BTL segment, what with the biggest KSU apologists that exist in the media – KK, Clinkscale, Stan Weber, et al.

    As far as all of the special court-storming, specailly printed T-shirts, etc. I actually think it is quite a compliment to the KU basketball program. They wouldn’t have gone to the trouble for any other bball win, outside of maybe Kentucky or Michigan State. Beating KU provided the high-water mark of the season for KSU fans.

    • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

      Gotta agree with BlackJack on the BTL thing. Listening to KK, & Weird Stan pontificate about KSU football/basketball is brutal enough, but then they bring on a senile Jim Colbert to talk about golf/KSU, and it officially becomes a snoozefest.

      • sporty says:

        JIm Colbert is rarely on. Stan Weber knows more about sports, not just K-State sports, than anyone on the show. He’s on once a week. They also have that Ku apologist, Keegan on along with some Mu dude. Wow, the insecurity from KU and Mu fans is humorous.

  6. Derek says:

    Lol ku fans getting mad at us for storming the court. You guys broke down a goal post after beating WEST. VIRGINIA.

  7. John says:

    FYI…Foster left the game due to a rolled ankle on the play where he drove the lane and stepped on it wrong, not cramping. Southwell the same. There was definitely cramping going on but those two injuries were not that.

    Was it an A++++ effort as you say? Defensively you could say that maybe. They took KU out of everything they wanted to do. The game was won on that end of the floor. However, that is what they do to most opponents. Look at the stats, K-State leads the big 12 in scoring defense. This was not some fluke performance defensively.

    Trying to make it out to be a game where everything went right for k-state and nothing did for ku is false. You could say that about the ku/tcu game last year. But to make that assertion about the game Monday is short-sighted and just pissy you lost to your in-state rival.

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