OTC: Peyton and Broncos Kick Ankle-Biting Chiefs Back To KC W/ First Loss

Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning (18) calls an audible at the line of scrimmage against the Kansas City Chiefs in the first quarter of an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 17, 2013, in Denver. Photo: Joe Mahoney, AP / FR170458 AP“Unlike the Kansas City Frauds, Peyton Manning is the real deal. … In a league ruled by quarterbacks, Denver has one capable of leading his team to the Super Bowl. Kansas City has grit, desire, toughness and all those qualities of a team trying to hide an obvious flaw: Alex Smith’s arm isn’t strong enough to wrestle with Manning or any other elite NFL quarterback.”
Mark Kiszla, columnist, Denverpost.com
GH: Kiszla stole a “Paige” from his fellow Post columnist last week when he called the Chiefs a “fraud” and “ankle biters.” In doing so, he incited much of Chiefs Nation and probably Mitch Holthus’ Kingdom as well. Unfortunately for us here in Kansas City, our Chiefs pretty much resembled those monikers Sunday night in Denver. Read on.

“Was the No. 1 defense in the NFL, the calling card of K.C., enough to shut down Manning and the Broncos? Please, don’t make Denver receiver Demaryius Thomas laugh. ‘We scored 27 points,’ said Thomas, chuckling.”
Mark Kiszla, columnist, Denverpost.com
GH: Uhhh, since when is 27 points and a 10-point win in the NFL chuckle worthy?

“They’re not a fraud. They hung.”
Josh Klingler, 610 AM

“Nothing is lost for the Chiefs – just a game.”
Steven St. John, 810 AM

“Kansas City can’t win the Super Bowl for a reason that coach Andy Reid certainly knows deep in his heart. His offense is too elementary. Quarterback Smith is the football equivalent of Ambien. He eases a coach’s worries. Nothing bad ever happens. But not much exciting happens. And next thing you know, you’re sound asleep on the sofa.”
Mark Kiszla, columnist, Denverpost.com
GH: Kind of like Peyton Manning and the Broncos were last January after the Baltimore Ravens knocked them from the playoffs with nary a win?

“Kansas City was never the main threat to the Broncos for AFC supremacy. That is the job more suited to New England. Hey, Frauds. You served a noble purpose, forcing the Broncos to earn a victory that was more grit than glamour. Now, go sit on the porch, young pups, and leave the real AFC fight to the big dogs.”
Mark Kiszla, columnist, Denverpost.com
GH: Are the Chiefs legit Super Bowl contenders in the AFC? We have another month to determine that question. But Kiszla is talking much tougher than he should be. As inept as the Chiefs’ offense played in Denver, this was a fair fight most of the game. That should concern both Kiszla and his Donkeys. Arrowhead awaits, gents.

“According to a lot of ‘smart’ national football types on Twitter tonight, being the last team to lose = fraud. Okay.”
Curtis Kitchen, @curtiskitchen, Twitter
GH: If the Chiefs finish 10-6, yeah, maybe their frauds. I just don’t think that’s going to happen.

“The Chiefs are probably lucky they got the Cowboys when they got the Cowboys.”
Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: What is the problem with Petro? Now he wants to go back and take away Chiefs’ wins? Is he just pissed because it’s not seamhead season?

“Apparently Scott Pioli’s mere presence in the stadium is enough to make the Chiefs lose. Can we get a restraining order on him?”
Rany Jazayerli, @jazayerli, Twitter
GH: How odd was it to see the svelte version of the Chiefs former GM working as an NBC analyst for this game? He sure looked happy, didn’t he? And thin! So much for eating all those candy bars and planting the wrappers.

“Scott Pioli’s candy wrappers far exceed Dex’s production.”
Jeremy, @jswabash, Twitter
GH: Dexter McFrustrating is just a maddening “weapon.” Somebody tweeted last night that their dead grandmother could tackle Dexter. I think he tripped over her grave at least twice Sunday night.  

“Verily, I wrote in my notepad ‘Andy Reid coached this game with a giant apple lodged in his throat.’”
Andy Glockner, @AndyGlockner, Twitter

“Final argument I’ll make about Reid’s stupidity: If you believe in your defense that much, no big deal then if you don’t convert 4th down.
Shawn Ryan, @ShawnRyanTV, Twitter

“If we are blaming individuals for this #chiefs loss, then Andy Reid is top of my list. Horrible game plan.”
Bob Fescoe, @bobfescoe, Twitter
GH: Reid’s game plan for Denver looked a lot like his game plan the first nine wins – don’t lose the game with your offense. Reid is coaching to win in the playoffs. I got the feeling he thought beating Denver in Denver was going to take a miracle so he decided to keep the game close and use the earned onfidence for the game at Arrowhead.

“Here’s my problem – Jamaal Charles 16 carries. Not enough.”
Steven St. John, 810 AM

“They have to fix (the offensive line) or at least put a Band-Aid on it or it’s going to be a long second half of the season. I think guys are going to have to step up and realize they are not carrying their weight. … All I see is technique. Good footwork. For offensive linemen I need to see something dirty.”
Danan Hughes, on the problems he sees with the Chiefs offensive line, 610 AM

“I don’t think Jeff Allen and Jon Asamoah are tough enough to be playing offensive line in the NFL.”
Bob Fescoe, 610 AM

“Broncos have won 20 of their last 21 regular-season games and have won 9 straight divisional games, the longest active streak in the NFL.”
Adam Schefter, @AdamSchefter, Twitter
GH: Yeah, Denver is pretty good. Are the other 19 teams frauds as well?

“Denver is the better team. Two weeks from now that might not be the case.”
Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: What does that even mean? Has Petro been hanging around Jack Harry?

“I don’t think Alex Smith/Chiefs were exposed tonight. They played exactly how majority of us expected them to.”
Chase Stuart, @fbgchase, of FootballPerspective.com, Twitter
GH: Bingo. They live to play another day and oh by the way, they’re 9-1.

“If there is one thing that is most concerning about this game it is that they did not hit Peyton Manning once.”
Soren Petro, 810 AM
GH: Did Peyton even have to wash his uniform after the game? I was expecting some hits on that ankle – especially from ankle biters!

“And Peyton Manning continues to get tackled as often as your average cactus.”
Mick Shaffer, @mickshaffer, Twitter

“It’s not all doom and gloom…well it is on the offensive side.”
Bob Fescoe, 610 AM

“SNF game between Broncos & Chiefs garners best primetime rating for a November game since Kordell/Tomczak beat Dolphins (11/25/96).”
Darren Rovell, @darrenrovell, Twitter
GH: The Chiefs and Broncos can still draw a crowd. I’m expecting a few folks to show up at Arrowhead in a couple of weeks.

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40 Responses to OTC: Peyton and Broncos Kick Ankle-Biting Chiefs Back To KC W/ First Loss

  1. BS says:

    I love hearing how Reid and the KC offense are horrible. We scored more points in the first 9 games than we did in all of 2012.

    Yes, there is room for improvement. We don’t have a franchise QB or the best WR corps in the NFL. Our O-line is good at run blocking, but sub-par in obvious passing situations. But we are light years better than last year and much of that credit lies with Reid and Smith.

  2. donkeypunch says:

    GH sed:
    If the Chiefs finish 10-5, yeah, maybe their frauds. I just don’t think that’s going to happen.

    donkeypunch sez:
    Somehow I don’t think they’ll finish 10-5 because, you know, that would be an incomplete season and all

  3. JP says:

    All in all, I am not that upset about last night’s game. I wanted a win, but tell me what other NFL team would have won last night in Denver. The Donkeys needed that game. Our defense got schooled somewhat and adjustments will be made.

    The big weakness with the Chiefs is their WR and Offensive Line. If they can’t find a way to protect Alex going forward, it could be a long year. Plus how many drops are we going to see from Donnie Avery this year. He seems to do it routinely. Bowe had an average game, but needs to be doing more. Disappointing, but there is still plenty of football to be played.

    Finally, how many TV’s in KC got sprayed with beer, from having to watch Scott Pioli as the “expert” analyst. I agree with Rany, just ban him from any stadium the Chiefs are playing. He is bad karma.

    • Stevo says:

      We weren’t beating Denver in Denver when we had a game up on them. It just wasn’t going to happen. Honestly, Reid probably knew this too but you can’t say it or anything. The Chiefs should, and will, be judged by what happens at Arrowhead in two weeks. They just somehow have to focus on SD first. No small task…and SD will beat us if we look ahead.

  4. Kyle says:

    The Chiefs held Denver to 27 points, their lowest output of the year, on their home field, without touching the QB once. It will be interesting to see what happens at Terrorhead when he does get hit a few times. I agree with Neon Deon’s post game assessment. The Chiefs were 2-3 plays on defense, that could have easily been made, from winning the game. No shame in losing 27-17 on the road to a team like Denver. Honestly, I was fearing a 45-10 blowout. If we take care of business Sunday, which we should, Terrorhead will be jacked for the Denver game. Plus it will be a night game in the 2nd half to make things even more festive.

  5. Gavin says:

    Yeah, Denver, you sure showed us. A ten-point home victory when you’d been promising an apocalyptic beatdown against a team coming off the worst season in franchise history. Clearly you guys are the reincarnation of the Joe Montana/Steve Young-era 49ers.

    Jesus. I’m coming to the realization that I don’t really hate the Broncos. I mean, I want to beat them and everything, but I don’t hate them. But sweet hopped up Jesus do I hate Denver fans.

    • Twy's Gibman says:

      yes – they’re starting to sound like the St. Louis baseball crowd. They never deserved Elway.

      • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

        Except the StL Baseball crowd has a couple World Series championships to back them up. Denver hasn’t won a damn thing since Terrell Davis had good knees.

  6. nick says:

    Sherman’s fumble, Charles would-be TD drop, Avery’s maybe-would-be-TD-drop, Bowe’s alligator-armed drop, ill-timed penalties, couple mistakes on D that led to big gains, a pick 6 near miss by Demps….all in all, Denver’s the better team, but it’s not by a lot. Should be different in Arrowhead.

  7. WaldoTiger says:

    I think the Chiefs defense looked outstanding considering they couldn’t get to Manning. The Broncos defense came to play and exposed our well below average receiving corps. I also thought Alex Smith looked pretty good, but the man can’t throw AND catch the ball. Even Payton Manning would struggle with this group of receivers.

  8. Jim says:

    Petro is right about one thing. In today’s media, you are either a Hall of Famer or….you suck!!! How is it the almighty Broncos had a 10 point lead 11 minutes into the game and won the game by 10 points over a “fraud”? Does nobody see how ridiculous all this hyperbole is regarding the outcome of the game? Yes, it was a 10-point loss to a VERY good football team on their home turf. This was a freaking 2-win team last year that is tied for first in the AFC West with a 9-1 record. Good God! Who the HELL in the world thought they were going to a Superbowl or had a chance of winning the AFC West outright? Let me answer that. NOBODY!! A playoff berth…any kind of playoff berth this season…..is absolute icing on the cake for what everyone thought this season was going to be. If you are somehow disappointed in that reality…..Wow.

    • Kyle says:

      Well said Jim. If you lose a game nowadays, EVERYTHING is falling apart. And if you win, well it better be pretty, or else you still suck.

  9. Kyle Rohde says:

    Considering how crappy the Chiefs played (below average O, even for them) and how average their D played, compared to the rest of the year, I’d say they’re in good shape for the return matchup at Arrowhead. Shut everybody up that day by destroying the Broncos.

    • DodgerHawki says:

      Did they play average, or did they play a better team? I don’t have the definitive answer, but the Chiefs offense played pretty much how it has all year. Defense wasn’t bad, just not really, really good as it has been all year.

      Chiefs average 320 yards per game on offense. They got 344 last night. Chiefs are +15 in turnovers on the year. Were even last night.

      Chiefs defense obviously gave up the most points they have all year. But Broncos average 39.8 points and 455 yards per game, so holding them to 27 and 422 was pretty good.

      Chiefs are still in good spot to get the No. 1 seed if they can beat the Broncos in the rematch in 2 weeks. But if they lose that one and get the 5 seed in the playoffs, no one in the national media will think they can go on the road and beat New England or Cincinnati or Indianapolis.

  10. Biff says:

    That game showed the KC offense is bad and the Defense is not as great as people think.
    I thought once Denver got a 7 point lead they played it safe as KC was not going to score much. Denver did just did what they needed to win the game and keep Peyton safe.

  11. Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

    As a person who didn’t have a dog in the fight, I just had to sit back a smile at all the hypebole leading up to this game. At the end of the day, it’s just a regular season game. The playoffs are what matters. The local media was all over this game as if it was the damn Super Bowl itself. Good grief.

    • Java Man says:

      Very true. Just one of 16 regular season games. Already looking forward to the next game.
      Something tells me I won’t be able to bounce back as quickly with the MU Tigers loss that is looming one of the next two weekends.

  12. Say What? says:

    The Chiefs will never win a playoff game with Captain Checkdown at QB. I know he had some drops last night, but his accuracy is below average and he refuses to throw the ball downfield unless absolutely necessary.

    The difference between him others is that they know when to throw the ball off of the WRs breaks to hit that window when they will be open, which is a very small window. Alex waits too long and then only has the safety valve option of throwing it the waiting RB at or around the line of scrimmage.

    • Kyle says:

      He through a perfect pass to Avery that would have been a 64 yard TD if he could catch. He through deep about 5 times last night. When you have nobody with deep speed, it’s kind of hard.

      • Say What? says:

        He through the ball 45 times last night, there was no way someone was open down field only 5 times. Alex Smith cannot react fast enough to a defense and I don’t think he trusts his throws enough to get it there.

        Bowe dropped a pass last night where he was wide open and a good throw would have been an easy catch. AS threw it high and behind Bowe, who was running full speed across the field, and Bowe dropped it. His checkdowns are often at the shoelaces or 5 yards over the head of the receiver.

        I’m sorry but Alex Smith will never get it done.

        • Say What? says:


        • johncocktosten says:

          I agree. Smith is OK but he’ll never win a Super Bowl. Like Collinsworth pointed out last night, Manning never misses Jamal Charles being covered by a linebacker. Instead, Smith pre-snap already made his mind up he was going to McCluster and threw it incomplete at his feet. People are freaked out because they’ve seen this movie before. It was called the 90′s. This lack of offense just leads to a first-round playoff loss.

          • Jim says:

            Bullshit! Manning missed a WIDE OPEN Decker for an easy touchdown. Collinsworth even pointed it out. Instead, it was an incomplete pass that forced a punt.

  13. Hot Carl says:

    “When you have nobody with deep speed, it’s kind of hard.”

    And nobody separates. Bad line and no WRs makes for a long night for any QB.

  14. john doe says:

    12 hours of pre-game for a regular season game? Chiefs deserved to lose just because the idiot fans and media were acting like it was the Super Bowl.

    Denver knew they had the game in the bag, and didnt really show much once they scored 17. They knew the Chiefs couldn’t score that many.

    0-1 against teams with a winning record.

    • JD says:

      Don’t you just love bitter Bronco fans?

      Dal was 1-0 when they played KC.
      Tenn was 3-1 when they played KC.

      But why let facts get in the way?

      Speaking of facts:
      Den has only played 2 teams with a winning record and are 1-1.
      Tebow has more Bronco playoff wins than Manning.

      One Bronco QB threw an overtime playoff TD to win, and one Bronco QB threw an overtime playoff INT an lost. I wonder who did what?

      Bronco fans should be more worried about Peyton’s 8, “One & Done”, playoff record, than KC’s strength of schedule, which is almost identical (14 games) to Denver’s.

      • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

        Peyton Manning’s career has more recorded gag jobs in it than a Jenna Jameson double feature.

      • john doe says:

        Who said I was a Broncos fan? Are fans of other teams allowed to comment here?

        • JD says:

          Since you didn’t mention any other team besides Den, you’re right, I should’ve read your mind. (rolls eyes)

          Anytime you want to mention what team it is, go ahead. We can put them under a microscope too, and somehow I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t look any better.

          Philly now being 6-5 shows what a joke this “Strength Of Schedule” BS is. Since Phil now has a winning record, does that mean the haters have to say the Chiefs aren’t a fluke?

          NE is 1-2 against winning teams (going by current records). Are they a fluke? SoS is crap.

    • Kyle says:

      And Philly is now 6-5.

  15. kchoya says:

    Denver loses at New England next Sunday night and the Chiefss beat SD at Arrowhead, which is entirely plausible, and suddenly the Chiefs have a one game lead again. Beat Denver the following week, and it’s a two-game lead with four games remaining. What more could you ask for?

  16. Kiszla sounds like a superfan screaming on a message board somewhere, rather than a columnist. I can visit the likes of tigerboard.com or phog.net just about any time and get that sort of stuff from any dozens of posters after a game’s occurred. I guess that passes for a sports columnist in Denver. They can keep him.

    • Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

      Does the same congolomerate own the Denver Post and KC Star? If so, Kislza’s story is a complete plant, ordered by the company to get things riled up for round #2 and stimulate readership and circulation. If KC wins at home, you can bet your ass that Sam Mellinger or Vahe Gregorian will have a similiar inflammatory column printed in the Denver Post.

  17. Bronco Terrance says:

    As much as I hate to admit it, this Chiefs team is a fraud. Worst offensive line in the NFL, 1 sack in 3 games and a horrible WR crew. Where are the points going to come from in the next 6 games?

    Their luck has run out and the league has made the necessary adjustments to score on their defense.

    Pitiful performance in Denver!! Can you say 10 and 6!

  18. Kerouac says:


    So much for the ‘best team in the NFL’ – one game, one loss and ‘sssssssssssssssssssssss’ goes the Chiefs balloon… Broncos all alone now in 1st place AFC West, head to head advantage & too divisional opponents same.

    DEN more than doubled what KC’s vaunted defense was allowing to such NFL greats as Keenum Tuel and (insert another tomato can QB). 27 points, 30 sans a missed field goal, the DEN K’s first miss of the year, an aberration. Said the flip side Chiefs apologists “yeah, but we held DEN under it’s season scoring average!” 422 yards and nigh on 30 points (and considering DEN was burning clock 4th quarter, running it moreso than passing, their preferred tack) suggests KC was fortunate it didn’t get another couple tds applied.

    Too, one of KC’s tds was a gift courtesy the officials & DEN. A taunting penalty allowed KC to continue a drive that was ended, and Bowe pushed off the end zone to allow him to succeed.

    Once again (per the usual), an opposition TE abused the thoroughly over-hyped Berry in KC’s secondary… #29 will get owned again this week by SD’s Gates, who berry still hasn’t managed locate in three going on four years now.

    So much for CB Cooper… he might as well be named DB as often as he was seen in the vicinity of a Broncos WR (like Thomas) gouging #31 ad nauseam.

    CB Flowers too was schooled by Welker, the former starter now capable only of playing the slot, apparently, half a hundred million $ not so well spent.


    This n that

    Charles has lost a step – he scores a td on that long run, 2-3 years of (less) wear and tear ago.

    Bowe is the best – and only – WR the Chiefs have… for better & worse, the Chiefs are stuck with him/vice versa.

    Houston & Hali (otherwise known as over-hype & hoopla)… now appearing on a milk carton near you.

    So, the Broncos – a team missing its starting LT, starting C and starting CB – whupped the Chiefs from start to finish, and even managed to survive a turnover deep in the their own end the field & a hobbled QB theirs.

    As for KC, only in the modern watered down, parity-manipulated mediocre-ville be the NFL can an team with the worst record in the league the season before become ‘the best’ at 9-0 the very next season; KCinderella’s 15 minutes of Warhol is now fini.

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