OTC: Will KU Fans Greet Williams Warmly? / Will Marshall Henderson Burn Down The P&L? / Parkins & Carrington Celebrates 1st Anniversary

“Look at what the NCAA has to do now – bring Roy Williams to Kansas City [to potentially face Kansas] in order to sell tickets. They’re having problems selling tickets at these arenas. They’re bending over backwards to try and sell tickets!”
Jason Whitlock, in an interview with Bob Fescoe, 610 AM
GH: Selling tickets to most sporting events where the teams are unknown until just days before the tournament has always been somewhat of a problem – especially for first-round NCAA games held at noon on a workday. So what if the NCAA is attempting to provide sexier matchups to sell tickets? I just wish they had gone full hog and placed Mizzou, Wichita State, Creighton and Iowa State here at Sprint.

“If I’m at the game Friday night, I stand up and cheer Roy Williams.”
Nate Bukaty, on the former KU coach’s return to Kansas City, 810 AM
GH: Coach Roy remains a polarizing figure amongst Kansas fans. How much anger and resentment remains for doggone Roy? Did that Jayhawk sticker and his Heels two losses to Bill Self’s Jayhawks ease the bitterness? If so, how much? Will you too be standing with Nate to cheer Roy on Friday night?

“Bill Self cures all. In hind sight, everybody was angry. At the time, I was angry.”
Jake Gutierrez, on the softening of KU fans’ hatred for the departed Roy Williams, 810 AM
GH: On my trips to Lawrence and Allen Fieldhouse, I have found little evidence that Roy Williams ever set foot in either place. The KU administration treats Coach Roy pretty much the same as the treat Mizzou – he’s dead to them. I think the Kansas administration’s attitude toward Roy is why many Jayhawks remain bitter about him and his “I’m stayin’” speech.

“They need to bring Roy Williams back to Allen Fieldhouse and honor him! The same way they did with Wilt Chamberlin. This is a guy who needs to be put up on a pedestal. Any Jayhawks that hold any resentment at all – get over it!”
Dave Armstrong, 810 AM
GH: I hate this kind of attitude about coaches – did we learn nothing from Joe Paterno? Almost none deserve to be put on a pedestal – and surely not those who bolt their program to go to what they perceive as a better job. Roy made his choice and any honors he receives will have to come from Carolina in the Dean Dome.

“Trust me, Tarheel Nation is not happy about this match-up.”
Dave Armstrong, on Carolina potentially facing Kansas in Kansas City, 810 AM
GH: We rarely look at these games from the other side. It makes sense that Carolina is not happy about facing KU again and in their backyard. I don’t expect Roy to be wearing any Jayhawk stickers this time.

“What is the reason that Kansas State is being so overlooked by the national media?”
Bob Fescoe, 810 AM
GH: I have three; Kansas. Kansas. And Kansas.

“I’m sitting in the studio and I see the brackets come up and I see Wisconsin and K-State and I go, ‘You’ve got to be kidding me.’”
Frank Martin, on his former team again being paired in the same bracket as Wisconsin, 810 AM
GH: I don’t want to get too critical of Martin’s comment but I would sure like to hear a coach say something like, “Great! We owe those sumbitches an ass kicking!” Hearing Martin said, “You’ve got to be kidding me,” just doesn’t make me real confident of his own confidence.

“I’m going K-State all the way to the Sweet 16 because I think they’re going to play to their seed because that’s what they’ve done all year.”
Nate Bukaty, 810 AM
GH: A K-State win over Wisconsin would be HUGE for Bruce Weber. I would not put it past him to slay yet another of Martin’s dragons in just his first year in Manhattan.

“I think Kansas State – if they can get out of Kansas City the road looks a little better for them.”
Dave Armstrong, 810 AM

“I don’t have Missouri getting out of the first round. Even if they do they’re not beating Louisville. And Vegas likes K-State as much as they like Missouri? I don’t get it.”
Bob Fescoe, 810 AM

“When [Missouri] gets it right, they are as hard a match-up as I have had to prepare for as a coach. That is a team that I don’t think anybody has any interest in playing against.”
Frank Martin, 810 AM
GH: After watching ESPN’s 30-or-30 documentary, Survive And Advance, on Jim Valvano and his North Carolina State’s improbable and roller-coaster ride to the 1983 National Championship, (an absolute MUST see for any CBB fan), I am holding out a glimmer of hope for the talented but cursed Tigers. NC State entered the tourney with 10 losses – same as MU. Okay, Frank Haith is not Jim Valvano – but what a ride it would be if Mizzou could exercise about 40 years of demons in the next four weeks.

“What I’ve learned about Ole Miss fans since I’ve been here is that they are pretty cocky and they’ve got a lot of money. They like to talk about their sports teams but their sports teams haven’t been that great. So it’s good to express what Hotty Totty Nation would like to say, I’ll just say it for ‘em.”
Marshall Henderson, Mississippi’s controversial shooting guard, when asked about his antics during Ole Miss’ run through the SEC tourney, Sirius XM 91
GH: Marshall Henderson is coming to Kansas City and he won’t be bringing much of his Hotty Totty Posse. How will his act play on foreign-SEC soil? The reception awaiting Marshall will make Roy’s homecoming look like San Francisco circa 1968. BTW, what is Hotty Totty [pronounced hoity toity] ? Read on…

“Anyone who’s spent any time around SEC sports is well aware of the foul-mouthed [Hotty Totty] chant so dearly loved by the Ole Miss faithful. All other eleven schools in the SEC are repulsed by both its vulgarity and by its execution, which is generally only done when 85% of the participants are fully inebriated. Fans of rival Mississippi State claim it comes from a time when teams hurled slurs at one another during sporting events and a drunken Ole Miss fan heard an angry Mississippi State fan yell ‘hoity toity’ which, of course, means “Pretentiously self-important, haughty or pompous.” The Ole Miss fan, in his drunken stupor, took it as a challenge to imbibe more alcohol. … Of course, no one associated with the University can remember the REAL origin of Hotty Toddy—statistics say memory is the first thing to go when one is intoxicated.”
Roland Mann, writer/professor/blogger, rolandmann.com

“I voted [Marshall Henderson] first team all-league, so when he said the other guys were losers, he wasn’t talking about me.”
Frank Martin, joking with The Border Patrol about Henderson calling the SEC coaches “losers” for not selecting him to the SEC All-Conference first team, 810 AM

“I don’t pay attention to other teams’ actions. I’m more concerned with my team.”
Frank Martin, when asked to comment on the wild on-court histrionics of Henderson, 810 AM
GH: Frank Martin is always on his best behavior when it comes to discussing other teams, other coaches and other players. He NEVER has a real comment to express. He thinks he’s a future TV star – he better start listening to Jay Bilas then and stop emulating the TV suck ups.

“I think they’ve done a pretty good job of helping that young man grow. And Andy Kennedy and that university will continue to do that for that young man.”
Frank Martin, on Ole Miss and Marshall Henderson, 810 AM
GH: Huh? If Ole Miss is helping Henderson “grow,” is their goal to create the next Lindsay Lohan? This guy has cellblock or graveyard written all over his future. I don’t see anything that Mississippi is doing to change that path.

“I was coaching when the Lakers won 33 [in a row] and they were blowing teams out of the water. This [Heat] team is doing the same thing.”
Tom Heinsohn, former Celtics coach, on the Heats’ quest to exceed the 1971-72 LA Lakers 33-game win streak, ESPN Radio
GH: LeBron James and the Heat are now at 23 straight after coming back from a 17-point deficit to hand Boston a 105-103 loss at home Monday night. This is starting to get very, very good.

“I know the history of the game. Of all the teams that have come through the ranks, to be in second place now — for us to be there and do it the way we want to do it, it means a lot.”
LeBron James, on the Heat grabbing claim to the second longest winning streak in NBA history, ESPN.com

“Nope, I’m not looking ahead. Not until we get to 32.”
Dwyane Wade, ESPN.com

“How long can this last? The Heat don’t know, but they want to find out. Their next four games are against the teams with the four worst records in the East: Cleveland, Detroit, Charlotte and Orlando. It’s still a long way to the record, but it’s no longer something the Heat feel is out of their reach.”
Brian Windhorst, writer, ESPN.com

“I think frankly what we’ve done here in one year is amazing.”
Danny Parkins, as he and Carrington Harrison celebrated their one-year anniversary of the Danny Parkins Show on Tuesday, 610 AM
GH: I find the Danny Parkins show incredibly sophomoric – but I’m a 58-year-old never was. Maybe there is an audience who craves hearing about how these two social dweebs’ lives. I do think they have some sports acumen chops. But they too often lose me with their buddy banter about butts, babes, betting and booze. Trust me, it reads better than it sounds.

“I was absolutely terrible the first three months of the show.”
Carrington Harrison, 610 AM
GH: Both Harrison and Parkins must be getting some positive vibes from their ratings or boss – or maybe both. I just find myself flipping them off more than on – in the non-finger sense.

“I know you’re a little upset that your name’s not on the program and one day that will come.”
Danny Parkins, to his cohost Carrington Harrison, 610 AM
GH: What the hell is the wait for? Is Harrison an intern or a cohost? Is he akin to Kurtis Seaboldt on Petro’s show or Nate Bukaty on Steven St. John’s show? The last time a black man was kept waiting this long for a promotion he was sitting in the back of the bus.


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37 Responses to OTC: Will KU Fans Greet Williams Warmly? / Will Marshall Henderson Burn Down The P&L? / Parkins & Carrington Celebrates 1st Anniversary

  1. JP says:

    First of all, NC State’s title occurred in 1983. That is one of the best documentaries done on the 4 letter network and a must for all college hoop fans. I watched that NC State team from the ACC tournament onward and it was an incredible story. That Pepperdine game was one of the most incredible finishes in the pre shot clock days. A testament to Valvano’s underrated coaching ability. He got everything out of that team, and that run is one for the ages.

    Second, as for Roy coming back, I have no ill will. Roy did a great job with KU, but we ended up with a better coach in the end in Bill Self. That said, a lot of the bad feelings have left most KU fans. I think Roy gets a better than expected reaction from the fans at Sprint Center. It should be a great weekend of basketball with the teams and personalities coming in. Bo Ryan and Marshall Henderson together, can’t wait for Friday.

  2. Kyle says:

    Any KU fan that has one iota of ill will toward Roy needs to get a life. The man gave everything he had for 15 years, and has been nothing but complimentary of KU since he left. We are about as spoiled as it gets having Roy and Bill as our coaches for the last 25 years. He deserves immense credit and a standing ovation when he walks into the Sprint Center. I expect at least 80-90% of the KU fans will applaude him. Every fansbase has a small percentage that is completely irrational and nothing can be done about them.

    • Greg Hall says:

      Kyle, But don’t you get the feeling in Lawrence that Roy was never there? I sure don’t see much of a reminder in the very cool AFH museum. The school seems to still be holding a grudge against Roy.

      • Kyle Rohde says:

        I agree with everything Kyle said 100% and it’s not just because he and I share a name. Roy did everything right for KU when he was here and left for the one job anybody with half a brain knew he would take if ever given the chance. If the biggest mistake he ever made was saying he’d never leave the first time they offered him the job, then he did one helluva job.

        KU ended up with an even better coach, which has spoiled fans even more than we were with Roy. Because of that, I also expect a minority of idiots to still harbor completely irrational dislike for the man even though he gave us the chance to get Self by leaving in the first place.

        Greg, I don’t agree with your assertion about the recognition of him in the Fieldhouse. He gets less pub than Naismith and Allen for obvious reasons, less than Brown because Brown won a title (though Roy’s a far better coach IMO) and less than Self because he’s current and won a title. Roy is right there with Owens and Harp, as he should be. He’s in the pregame video just like the rest.

  3. Jim says:

    I never had any ill-will towards Roy. The dude was awesome. The only thing he didn’t give KU was a National Championship. But, his teams were an absolute blast to watch play. I never understood all the KU fan’s animosity towards him. He took another job. Big freaking deal. get over it. Nobody gives two shits that Illinois was pissed at Self for the same reason. Coaches move on. KU’s success after Williams left has exceeded anything that Roy did. What’s to be pissed about? As the biggest KU you’ll ever run across……….get over it!

    • Greg Hall says:

      The way Roy scheduled and coached made Kansas basketball a must-watch for me when I moved to KC in 1988. He definitely got cranky and an elite attitude as his success built but the guy delivered entertaining basketball to this area.

  4. john doe says:

    KU fans hate a lot of things

    Roy Williams
    Mark Mangino
    college football

    • Jim says:

      You’d think your trolling schtick would get old, Doe-Boy…….but, apparently it doesn’t. If you absolutely have to continue, can you at least attempt to be clever?

    • Alphonse Tooty says:

      You’re obviously under Jim’s skin. Nice work!

    • JP says:

      Doe, you forgot to include obnoxious Missouri fans who make more comments about their ex rival than they do their own team. I guess if I’m popping champagne corks on making the tournament for the 5th year in a row, and calling that an accomplishment, I guess I’d be looking to rain on someone else’s parade.

  5. Johnny Utah says:

    I have ill will toward Dean Smith who recruited KU’s coach in the 2003 final four, likely costing KU a title. He’s never welcome back in Lawrence for that betrayal. Roy? He’s fine. He did a good job at KU and then KU got a guy who’s doing a better job.

    KC will not have trouble selling tickets for the NCAAs. Whitlock is out of touch with KC living in LA. KC didn’t need UNC to sell it either. KU and KSU will bring plenty of fans.

    • Kyle Rohde says:

      Time to get over the ill will towards an old man suffering from dementia. What cost KU the ’03 championship was shooting 12 for 30 on free throws, if you really want to name one thing.

  6. KCPRGuy says:

    I’m pretty sure the NCAA did not bring Roy to KC to sell tickets. KU and KSU would do just fine filling up Sprint without Roy. Now, maybe they are trying to boost ratings? I could buy that.

    I think it’s hard to bring a former coach back if he is still out on the road recruiting against you. That said, when Roy retires, I sure hope he gets invited back to AFH. Would love the chance to thank him for what he did for the program.

  7. Richard Cranium says:

    I do not agree with the sentiment above, then again, I’m kind of a dick head. I do NOT have a positive vibe for Roy, and hate his hillbilly backwoods NON-charm. I obviously endured him while he was a Hawk, and rooted for him despite the fact. I dislike the way he left, and continue to dislike him and root against him and anything he’s associated with. In addition, I do not like NC, and thus dislike their coach. It’s akin to saying just because VCU is not intrusive their shitbag hack of a coach is not. Just the opposite. See what I did there. F Roy Williams is what I’m hoping you pull from this insiteful rant.

  8. JG says:

    I think Neal and Marty made it to their one year anniversary too. How’d that play out in the end?

    • Java Man says:

      I had forgotten about Neal and Marty. Maybe the current 610 staff isn’t so bad after all.

  9. sweet lou says:

    the last vestiges of my problems with Roy melted away with his failure to recognize a triangle and two defense. i’ll absolutely applaud him on friday for all he did for KU.

    as far as more recognition at AFH — i’m sure he’ll get that after he retires from coaching. no need to make too much of a fuss over a coach – who left by his own decision – while he’s still coaching and recruiting in direct competition with KU.

  10. Guy Who Says What Others Think says:

    Roy Williams is one of the largest two faced hypocrites on the face of this earth.

  11. Kyle says:

    Greg, I have never felt that. I think when Roy retires his presence will be felt even more around there. The fact that he is still a competitor may have something to do with the fact that he is not all over the place. I think one day he eventually will be.

  12. Gavin says:

    My feelings on Roy are complicated. I won’t say I have any ill will toward him, exactly. It’s not that I want bad things to happen to him, because I don’t. But I don’t wish him all the success in the world, either. I don’t mind a bit when Carolina loses and I used to cheer for them all the time as my second favorite team, now I’m pretty much indifferent about them. If they win, meh. If they lose, meh. When they play Duke, I want the visiting team to win every game.

    What bugs me about Roy is the way he goes on and on about how “for fifteen years he gave the University of Kansas [his] heart, body and soul.” He said it before we played UNC in 2008 and he said it again last year. If we play them again this year, I’m betting he says it again. And I don’t like it because he seems to act as if he didn’t get something in return. As if KU fans didn’t give him undying adulation and as if we didn’t beg him to stay, twice, when the very real possibility loomed that he might (or eventually go ahead and) leave. He got a pretty fair trade with KU. He was a hero and was treated accordingly and now he walks around with his hurt feelings and swears up and down that he gave us his heart, body and soul like KU didn’t give back those exact same things. I like him for giving of himself, but I’m still kinda cranky that he doesn’t recognize that we gave them back to him. So I don’t hate him and I do respect him, but I don’t have to give him wet, sloppy kisses too.

    As for signs that Roy was ever there, Greg, he’s in the pre-game video, he’s in photographs all over the Booth Hall of Fame with his team, his painting is in the KU Athletics Hall of Fame. It’s not exactly some Orwellian effort to throw him into a memory hole and make him an unperson. What do you want them to do to show that he was there? Name something after him?

  13. That one guy from that one time says:

    I’m not a KU fan but have many friends that are. Maybe my friends are the exception to the rule, but they can’t stand Roy Williams, and still hate him. I’ve tried to reason with them that he did everything but win a title while at KU, and that they have a better coach who has had more success now. But none of that matters, they hate Roy. I don’t get it at all.

  14. The Smartman says:

    Unadulterated hatred is what is great about college rivalries. Kick the dog, beat the wife psychotic hatred. If you’re a real beaker you gotta be booing and breaking Roy’s balls every chance you get. If KU and NC face each other you gotta take it to the next level. Get inside Roy’s head. Get inside his player’s head about what a rotten two faced cock sucker he is. Fanatics baby! FANATICS. That’s why they call it MARCH MADNESS.

    Parkins and Harrison may be like herpes at 610. They may never go away. I subjected myself to about 5 minutes early on and they made KK sound like the Cherubim and Seraphim singing Ave Maria.

    The Heat won’t break the record. Dame Karma will intervene. The record belongs right where it is.

    Marshall Henderson will get a gig on Moonshiners when he graduates unless the KKK starts a white boy development league for the NBA. That’d give a whole new meaning to hoody!

    Frank Martin may want to win something to guarantee a post coaching TV gig. Hard to be a pundit with any credibility when you’ve done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in your chosen field.

    Frank Haith is not Jim Valvano. On the certainty scale that’s right up there with Is the Pope Catholic and Does a bear shit in the woods.

    • Lou Brown says:

      Don’t know about Frank Martin having to win to get a TV gig – Example 1, Seth Greenberg.

  15. geo says:

    Why is everybody so sure that Kansas is going to play North Carolina? Seems to me that there are two other games that must come first.

  16. MrOlathe says:

    Damn Gavin…I need to take you on some of my sales calls. I agree with you almost all of the time and you seem to put it more eloquently than I do! Anyway, I think I’m like a lot of KU fans: Loved Roy when he was here. Got kind of tired of his schtick at the end. Worn out by his thin skin. Annoyed that he refused to recruit east of the mississippi in reverence to UNC. But still wanted him to stay because you don’t know if you can do any better. But obviously we did. And I’d say MUCH better. Anyway, if Kansas wins and plays UNC on Sunday I will take a little more pleasure in beating Roy….again! But not like in 2008.

    • Gavin says:

      Thanks, Mr. O. You know, I think I am the only KU fan in the whole world willing to give Roy credit ion the whole east coast recruiting thing. I see everyone’s point and I understand that I’m in the minority and realize I could be wrong but he did go out and grab Adonis Jordan from New Jersey. And he went absolutely HAM for Felipe Lopez and that was what made him realize that the competition for east coast guys was going to be a real bitch because of all the schools he’d have to go against. Why not focus less on the east coast and get kids out of Chicago and California as well as the rest of the midwest and Texas and just not mess around with New York.

      Again, I know it was controversial and I can see how it would look like he was “giving” New York to North Carolina, but it’s not as if North Carolina had NYC all to itself. They still had to contend with Duke, UK and the whole Big East. While I absolutely agree that Roy gave up New York, I don’t think he was doing it for UNC so much as I think he was just doing it for himself.

      But, again, I know I am in the definite minority on this one.

  17. Herb says:

    CDot is black??

  18. Instructor says:

    Greg, why are you giving Henderson crap? I mean, “This guy has cellblock or graveyard written all over his future.”
    Really? Because he trolls the fan base and the players alike? And wins in the process?

    So what about Tyler Self and Rio Adams at the BIg 12 tournament, taunting other players from the bench? Somehow that never gets written or talked about. Any cellblock/graveyard predictions?

  19. Larry Mondello says:

    As an MU fan, I have watched Marshall Henderson play us 3 times. He is a jackass of epic proportions. I cannot wait until someone goes Kermit Washington on his ass and he he spits up a mouthful of bloody chicklets like Rudy Tomjanovich. The really shocking thing is that the dude has zero tattoos. That is one redeeming quality.

    The NC State comparison would be nice, but I would agree that Haith is no Jimmy V. But who is…there never will be another.

    Roy Williams is an ass. I could read right through that “aw shucks” schtick from the minute he stepped foot at KU. Why it took KU fans 15 years to see that he was not a genuine guy is beyond me. I guess they are just gullible. All that said, I would like nothing more than ol’ Roy to send KU out in round 2. What a joy for me.

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